Thomas Penfold and Sophia/Soffia Orchard

[toni*]

yes we found her in 1871 and 1901 did you have a look at the other thread? we are on Part 2 now.
 http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,266055.msg1517238.html#msg1517238

[matilda1973]

yeah
         spent sometime this morning going through it all  think im up to date with it.

[matilda1973]

the son of Edith Buckland & wisdom Smith
Their son Nathan married a Sarah Orchard ( widow) 1906 in plymouth but not been able to find any relations up until now

    do you know who Edith and Wisdoms parents are?  dont think ive come acoss them any where but i will have a look for you

[tiggi]

hi matilda
right trying to follow this ok I have James Smith ( no wife I don't know name but Scarrott has been mentioned before to me)
 now he had children  Selina,  William, Betsey ( my Great Grandmother), Harriet peggy Britannia

Selina Smith  born 1844 Taunton
 married 1886 Plymouth
 Henry James  born 1846 Somerset
On their marriage certificate witnessess were Defiance Orchard & William Smith ( brother)

william Smith married Caroline Smitheram 1874 Helston
james father deceased

Peggy  Smith married Joe Orchard 1875 Truro
 witnesses were her sister Harriet Smith ( Lee) & robert lee her husband ( James the father was deceased on record)
that is on previous link their children listed yes

Betsey married Nelson buckland ( My great grandparents)
Their daughter Edith married wisdom Smith in Bromsgrove 1872 not sure how he connects with Smith's
the other thing is we have Nelson parents Tenett buckland who married a Keziah Smith she was born 1832 ( NK)
 so it could be James & keziah are brother & sister
but where does Wisdom fit ?


 sorry have to go out for a few hours but will come back on later tonight you can always email me matilda it sounds like we have a link somewhere just need to figure it out
sandy

[matilda1973]

will see what i can find out while your gone and let you know.
           think they is a link somewhere penfolds always seem to somehow
        catch you later
                     Matilda

[matilda1973]

          right lets  see if ive got it right i now have 8 children   for James and Eliza smith
 peggy mjoe Orchard
 fiance c1840 m Robert Penfold
 louisa c1845  m Robert Penfold
 betsey  m Nelson Buckland
 selina 1844  m Henry james
 harriet
 william  m Caroline smithram
 britannia
does that seem right

[matilda1973]

got it i think

[deb usa]

I think you do Matilda .... How do they connect with the Penfolds ...will have to reread , I think 

deb

[deb usa]

Hi Tiggi 

who did all the Penfolds who married below, belong to? wish they could have used different names for their children 

I am related to these names in my family tree :
Henry Buckland (son of Tenett Buckland my Great Great Grandfather) m Harriett Penfold in 1878 Plypmton St mary Devon ( they went to USA and stayed there, their daughter Esther m John Penfold also in USA

Joshua Buckland m Selina Penfold 1887 Totnes
Jenty Buckland   m Wiliiam Penfold 1887 Plymouth
Sophy Buckland  m James Penfold 1887 Plymouth
All Buckland children father was Plato Buckland  (My great-Great Uncle & brother to Tenett Buckland)

deb