WARNER, BOND, DURRAH

[murraywarner]

If anyone is researching Warner I am interested               WARNER  
Note *** means not 100% confirmed..     See references letters, and things of interest      
(10)John Warner m Jenny
children
 (9) Robert Warner Christan July 10 1748 Buried Feb 15 1815 m Mary    
Children (8)William b circa 1772 *buried 29 March1847 m Dec 18 1790 to Sarah Smith
   Children: a)Thomas married (1) Catherine Bond (2) Patience                           b)William  wife was also a Sarah
                                c)Robert There is not a mention of Robert's wife


When (8)William got married he was a minor and his father had to sign for him
Marriage of William and Sarah
Marriage Register kept for the Parish of Sandon in the County of
Essex Film #1472660, item 26
Marriage
#83 - William Warner of the parish of •Sutton in the county of Essex, Batchelor, a minor, and Sarah Smith of this Pairish of Sandon in the said county of Essex, Spinster, were married in this church by licence, by and with the consent of Robert Warner, the natural and lawful father of the said William Warner the minor, this eighteenth day of December in the year one thousand seven hundred and ninety by me, John Lewis Jun.r, Curate
Parliamentary duty chargeable hereon 3
This marriage was soleminized between us, the mark of William Warner, the mark of Sarah Smith in the presence of T.L.Tweed, John Rolf. The mark of Robert Warner, the father.



(a) Thomas Warner b  1790 d June 02 1843 m(1)Cathrine Bond d. in the West Indies d/o Capt.Thomas Bond m (2) Patience
   Thomas Warner (a) was a band sgt of an English regiment stationed in the Channel Island; he married Catherine Bond daughter of Capt. Thomas Bond who left property to heirs of disinherited daughter Catherine. Capt Bond was drowned by the capsizing of a brig off the coast of Newfoundland about 1834. Thomas Warner (a) was a school-master at the time of his death.
Children (1)Thomas b1814  England d 1881 Port Hawkesbury m(1) Harriot King (2) Lavinia LeBlanc
   (2)William Edmund b April 1 1818 or 1819 d Feb 27 or 28 1861 m Jan. 08 1843 to ,Mary Ann Price (see William info)
   (3)Catherine b. In the West Indies m William Dedman ( a London Police man)
                         See letters to and from the above and see Thomas' military
Note of interest
From 'Births, Deaths and marriages in Newfoundland Newspapers 1825 - 1850
BOND   Capt Bond drowned Dec 14th on passage from Alicant to Nfld. Dec 14/35 on board 'Selina'. Jan l2/16T(imes) from letters it is believed Capt.Thomas Bond had a son who resided in Nfld,


b)William  wife was also a Sarah
Their children  from the letter                            
My elder daughter, Sarah married to a man at Woodamwater but
she is dead. She has left two boys. She died Oct 12, 184?, aged
26.
Martha, my next daughter, married a man from Danbury and died
Sept 5, 1846, aged 21 years.. Left no family.
Elizabeth is living in Springfield, aged 26. Elizabeth is living in Springfield, aged 26. b ca 1835 d Jan. 02, 1864 m George Bishop > On the 2nd inst, Eliza, aged 29 years, second daughter of Mr William Warner, and wife of Mr George Bishop. (From the  Halifax Citizen, Tuesday, January 5, 1864
Thomas living at home, 23.
John died July 18, 1841, aged 9,
Ellen, aged 1? is at home.
Henry died Sept 4, 1843, aged 5.
Joseph, aged 13, at home.
Mary Ann died April 11, 1843, aged 6 years.
My eldest son, William is 24 years old. He is
in the army, the 68th Light Infantry at Malta. He enlisted Nov 12,
1843 and in 2 years he got in the band and now is full musician. We
have not seen him since he went away. This is five years.

[murraywarner]

Hi I am researching Warner. I am from Nova Scotia and a Thomas and William Warner came here in 1835. Their father was Thomas and mother was Catherine Bond d/o Capt. Thomas Bond.................Thomas Warner had a daughter Catherine who married a London Policeman William Deedman ca 1845. Thomas also had at least 2 brothers Robert and William 1841 census
Great Baddow 1841 Census data for Essex.


186      William   Warner   70      Ag Labourer


Robert   Warner   35      Ag Labourer
758      Anmerity ?   Warner      35   Dress maker
759      Sarah   Warner      15   Ag Labourer
760      William   Warner      13   
761      Sophia   Warner      10   
762      Charlotte   Warner      8   
763      George   Warner   10

  Roberts letter was 1854   8.C)Robert The information of Roberts children is taken from a letter and it appears to be written possibally by his wife. The children are:The youngest is 13 years of age.there is no mention of this ones age Mary, the oldest, is married and has 5 children
Sophia is married and has two children



885      Mary   Warner      15   fs





1865   Turnpike House   William   Warner   45      Ag Labourer
1866      Sarah   Warner      40   
1867      Elizabeth   Warner      22   
1868      William   Warner   11     
1869      Thomas   Warner   9     
1870      John   Warner   7     
1871      Eleanor   Warner      3   
1872      Henry   Warner   2     
Williams letter between 1854 and 1856   8. b)William From a letter seems his wife was also a Sarah Their children also from the letter My elder daughter, Sarah married to a man at Woodamwater but she is dead. She has left two boys. She died Oct 12, 184?, aged 26.

Martha, my next daughter, married a man from Danbury and died Sept 5, 1846, aged 21 years.. Left no family.

Elizabeth is living in Springfield, aged 26.

Thomas living at home, 23.

John died July 18, 1841, aged 9,

Ellen, aged 1? is at home.

Henry died Sept 4, 1843, aged 5.

Joseph, aged 13, at home.

Mary Ann died April 11, 1843, aged 6 years.

My eldest son, William is 24 years old. He is in the army, the 68th Light Infantry at Malta. He enlisted Nov 12,1843 and in 2 years he got in the band and now is full musician. We have not seen him since he went away. This is five years. (see letters


Any info or connections

[astral14]

I have loads of information on the Warners of the West Indies. I wonder if yours tie in somehow?
Please let me know if you think I can be of some use.

[murraywarner]

Thomas Warner (England) Military Information
35th Regt of Infantry
WO 97 528 (reference to the original army record held in PRO Kew London)

Serjeant Thomas Warner
born in the parish of Great Baddow, town of Chelmsford, county of
Essex.
West Indies from 5.2.1821 to 2'i.6.l830
- - Thomas Warner served at the seige of Flushing and at Waterloo. 9 years 140 days in the West Indies, the remainder in the United Kingdom.
Thomas would have been in the West Indies fore over 9 years and his daughter Catherine was born there but later letters shows her at home in London.
If you have anything on a Thomas Warner in the West Indies between 1821 and 1830 it would be interesting to see. You could post it here. How did your Warner's come to be in the West Indies. From what year. If it was in that time frame , maybe (an unknown to us) son of Thomas's stayed there.

[astral14]

The Warners I have were there because they went over in the 16th c and were some of the original planters/ colonists and  slave owners with plantations. Obviously over the years the wealth fragmented and they became relatively normal...
I have many Thomas Warners but not one around these dates. Do you know his parents' names?

[murraywarner]

William Warner and Sarah Smith were the mom and dad of Thomas

William got married he was a minor and his father had to sign for him
Marriage of William and Sarah
Marriage Register kept for the Parish of Sandon in the County of
Essex Film #1472660, item 26
Marriage
#83 - William Warner of the parish of •Sutton in the county of Essex, Batchelor, a minor, and Sarah Smith of this Pairish of Sandon in the said county of Essex, Spinster, were married in this church by licence, by and with the consent of Robert Warner, the natural and lawful father of the said William Warner the minor, this eighteenth day of December in the year one thousand seven hundred and ninety by me, John Lewis Jun.r, Curate
Parliamentary duty chargeable hereon 3
This marriage was soleminized between us, the mark of William Warner, the mark of Sarah Smith in the presence of T.L.Tweed, John Rolf. The mark of Robert Warner, the father.



(a) Thomas Warner b  1790 d June 02 1843 m(1)Cathrine Bond d. in the West Indies d/o Capt.Thomas Bond m (2) Patience
   Thomas Warner (a) was a band sgt of an English regiment stationed in the Channel Island; he married Catherine Bond daughter of Capt. Thomas Bond who left property to heirs of disinherited daughter Catherine. Capt Bond was drowned by the capsizing of a brig off the coast of Newfoundland about 1834. Thomas Warner (a) was a school-master at the time of his death.

[astral14]

I do have a Robert Warner m to Laura Elizabeth Hoadley Ashe, who would be at about the right time to be your William's father. However, 'the mark of' doesn't sound quite right for this family who would have been educated enough to write. it does sound, though, as if they may have been connected in some way. Quite how I don't know at the moment. Will keep in touch.

[findem]

Hi Murray,
I think my Robert Warner could be a likely candidate for the father of William.

Robert Warner married Mary Cornwall in 1769 at Gt Wakering, Essex, all the children I have found were baptised at Sandon, Essex, including a William baptised 1772, their daughter Elizabeth is my ancestor.  Oddly enough I didn't find any children for this family who were named Robert or Mary, I suspect other children were baptised elsewhere either between 1769 and 1772 or after 1790, or both.

William would have been 18 if he married in 1790, old enough to marry and would have been classified as a minor, it's feasible he could have moved to Sutton? and then returned to marry Sarah Smith.

What do you think?

Being desperate for clues to Robert's birth/baptism place I had a look in the index of my UK road atlas, plenty of Suttons listed but none for Essex.  There is a Hutton (near Brentwood) which is not far from Sandon, so it's quite possible Sutton is Hutton, perhaps Robert and Mary had other children baptised there.

Regards.