Mackin Family

[Nugil]

Aghadowey, I see yesterday's post No 28 has Margaret Nugent's records scored through? She has a Lizzie Campbell mentioned with her death...Lizzie Campbell could be of James and Lizzie with whom Thomas is staying on the 1911 census?

[aghadowey]

It's not as complicated as it seemed at first- what's throwing us off is Eliza's maiden name.

To start with, there weren't that many Nugents in Trandragee (which may mean that they came from outside at some point) and there are only 2 Charles Nugents of concern- Charles (born 1875) and his father (born c1841). So, in the absence of other marriages (for a Charles Nugent to an Eliza O'Hanlon or Gilpin), the following is likely to be correct-

Charles Nugent (c1841-1906) m. Eliza Gilpin/McClean/O'Hanlon (c1838-1916)
The 1857 marriage date for Charles Nugent & Eliza McClean fits with the birth of eldest known child. In 1911 Eliza's granddaughter Mary Nugent (Charles, Jr.'s daughter) is staying with her
1.   Elizabeth/Lizzie Nugent (c1859) m.(1887) James Campbell
This is likely the Lizzie Nugent informant for Margaret Nugent's death. That Margaret is probably a sister to Charles, Sr. and thus Lizzie Campbell's aunt. In 1911 the Campbells have Lizzie's nephew Thomas staying with them (Charles, Jr.'s son)
2.   Thomas Nugent (c1861-1917) m.(1881) Ellen Toal
In 1911 neice Annie Nugent (Charles Jr.'s daughter) is staying in the household
3.   Margaret Nugent (c1866) m.(1892) William Hagan
Marriage certificate confirms her father as Charles Nugent
4.   Annie/Anna Nugent (1867-1897)
5.   Mary Nugent (1870-1884)
6.   Ellen Nugent (1872-1875?)
7.   Charles Nugent (1875-1910) m.(1896) Annie Mackin (d.1907), m.(1908) Annie Hagney

I have seen parish records where the mother's maiden name was recorded (incorrectly) a few times and in each case I think the mother was from outside the priest's parish. It might even be that Eliza was known by several surnames (father's surname, mother's surname, stepfather's surname) which I've also seen happen in fairly recent times.

More to follow later...

[Nugil]

Charles Jr's 2nd wife was Annie ?...being an accepted fact her sister was a Margaret Burns who married a George Murphy and they went to USA...on the 1930 census a "niece" is staying with them - Catherine Hagney!
I also seem to recall (but can't place the record right now) that on one of Annie's visits back to Ireland she stayed/visited a Hagney (between 1920 & 1934??) I'll keep looking.
No 3 - Margaret Nugent/Hagan...father being Charles, with mother...Eliza Gilpin?
No 6 - Ellen (Charles Jr's sister) - is it being implied she died aged 3ish?

[aghadowey]

Elizabeth/Lizzie Nugent (c1859-aft.1911) m.(1887) James Campbell, butcher (c1868-aft.1911)
   Bapt.8 Jan.1859 Kilmore, parents Charles Nugent & Eliza McClean
   marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/73b1287702370 
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Emerson_s_Entry/1021236
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Market_Street/332649
1.   Mary Ann/Minnie Campbell (c1888-aft.1911)
2.   ?Anne Campbell (c1890-aft.1901) ?James Campbell (c1891-aft.1911)
3.   ?Sarah Campbell (c1892-aft.1901) ?Patrick Campbell (c1893-aft.1911)
4.   Charles Campbell (c1894-aft.1911)
5.   Thomas Campbell (c1897-aft.1911)
6.   Elizabeth/Lizzie Campbell (5 May 1900-aft.1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1e71752557262
7.   Edward Campbell (9 Sept.1904) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c7c4152889468

Thomas Nugent (c1861-1917) m.(1881) Ellen Toal (c1862-1917)
   Bapt: 9 Aug.1860 Kilmore, s/o Charles Nugent & Eliza O’Hanlon
   Marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/df523914001327
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Montague_Street/1021409
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Montague_Street/332758
   Death (Thomas): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/e335f89952186
   Death (Ellen): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1023fe9950147
1.   Charles Nugent (1884-aft.1911)
birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/8452345922669
2.   John Nugent (1886-1903)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/7844231208732
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1a961911200569
3.   Margaret Nugent (1888-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4f50605375770
4.   Elizabeth/Lizzie Nugent (1891-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/6553cd5918109
5.   Thomas Nugent (1894-aft.1917)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/a34b811608210
6.   James Nugent (1898-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1ad89b5229693
7.   Ellen Nugent (7 Feb.1901-aft.1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/ff01aa2607089
8.   Annie Nugent (c1903-aft.1911)
9.   Child (d.bef.1911)

[aghadowey]

Margaret Nugent (c1866) m.(1892) William Hagan (c1860), barber
Marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/242bd27588436
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Market_Street/1021358
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Market_Street/332679
1.   Georgina Hagan (c1888-aft.1901)- from his 1st marriage
2.   William James Hagan (c1890-aft.1911)- from his 1st marriage
3.   Joseph Hagan (c1893-aft.1911)
4.   Charles S. Hagan (c1895-aft.1911)
5.   Harriet Hagan (c1898-aft.1911)
6.   Winifred Hagan (7 Apr.1900-aft.1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/8de0333282901
7.   Etta Hagan (7 Apr.1900-1901/1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/9987da3286332
8.   Peter Hagan (13 Dec.1901-d.bef.1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/5d05f43541130

Annie/Anna Nugent (1867-1897)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/73406d4404340 
Bapt. 13 Sept.1867 Kilmore, Anne, parents Charles Nugent & Eliza McClean
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/991fcc11753455

Mary Nugent (1870-1884)- parents Charles Nugent & Elizabeth McClean
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/80c5773689997
Bapt: http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632499#page/46/mode/1up
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/f2996e15264354

Ellen Nugent (1872-1875?)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/b02a335993359
Bapt. http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632499#page/51/mode/1up
? Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/9e40b418159812

Charles Nugent (2 Apr.1875-1910) m.(1896) Annie Mackin (d.1907), m.(1908) Annie Hagney
Birth (Charles Francis): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4382335519485
Bapt.: http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632499#page/55/mode/1up
1.   Annie Nugent (24 Aug.1902)
2.   Thomas Nugent (18 Sept.1903)
3.   Mary Nugent (19 Oct.1906)

[Nugil]

Goodness me, the Family Tree is growing
I'm continuing to delve into more records I have to find out any news I can regarding the Murphy's "niece" Catherine Hagney now that it's come to light that Charles' 2nd wife's surname might have been Hagney, not Burns (although there's proven family ties with Margaret Burns/Murphy).
Thank you

[BMA]

Hi Folks
I have done extensive research on the Mackin / Nugent / Hagany line.

Charles Francis Nugent born 2/4/1875 to Charles Nugent and Eliza Gilpin.
on 24/9/1896 he marries Annie Mackin daughter to James Mackin and Ann Burton. James Mackin died in 1877 and Ann marries Bernard Brophy on 16/5/1878. They have a daughter Mary Brophy born 21/9/1878 in Portadown. In 1897 Mary Brophy marries Thomas Cassidy. This accounts for the 1901 census http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Market_Street/1021363/

Charles is enlisted in the army, which would account for him not being on the census.
Charles and Annie have 3 children Annie (1902), Thomas (1903) and Mary (1906).
Annie dies on 17/11/1907 in Banbridge Workhouse from pulmonary TB.

Charles marries Annie Hagany on 3/3/1908 in Tandragee. Annie is the daughter of John Hagany and Mary Fearon.
Charles dies on 21/4/1910 from Peritoneal TB.
 
In the 1911 census Annie (Hagany) is on her own.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Gilford_Street/332573/

Annie is with Thomas Nugent (Charles's brother) and Ellen (Toal) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Montague_Street/332758/

Thomas is with James Campbell and Elizabeth (Nugent) (Charles's sister)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Market_Street/332649/

Mary is with her grandmother Eliza (Gilpin).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Emersons_Entry/332563/

Sometime after the 1911 census, Annie (Hagany) took her stepson Thomas to America and stayed with her sister Margaret (Hagany) and George Murphy and their family.

The confusion with Burns is Annie (Hagany) had another sister Bridget who married William Burns.

Annie Mackin ID GS19-G5X on www.familysearch.org

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GS19-G5X

Hope this is of help.
Blathnaid

[MothDust]

I may have an interesting tale to the Mackin story for you all, I was born a Mackin in the UK and our trail back through time has been really interesting. So my great great great grandfather is one James Mackin which I believe is from Cork ireland, all I know was he was regimented there... Here's where it gets odd... During the potato famine a family of  Mackins went over to Jersey... And a C was removed from the name.... So they are now Makin and we only found them about a decade ago through our own research. Can anyone add any pieces to my family trail???

[danidelaney]

Hi Corky,

There is a Thomas Mackin and Bernard Mackin listed as School Teachers in Newtownhamilton, Co. Armagh, in 1864.

A Joseph Mackin is also listed as a teacher in Carrickrovaddy School (Newtownhamilton).

I have not published the document yet so unfortunately I cannot send you any links.

I know these messages are quite old, so I hope people still check these boards. I have recently solved the question of my grandfather's biological parents. He was born in western New York, USA, to Thomas H. Mackin b. 1846 in Armagh (I believe he could be the son of the Thomas listed here, as he had a brother named Bernard, likely named for his father in Ireland). The mother was Agnes Ryan, whose family was from Killarney.

Agnes' first marriage was to a William Ferguson. Then, she married Thomas H. Mackin.
Thomas' first marriage was to Mary Elizabeth Finnegan. It was a second marriage for both of them. He was about 20 years older than she was.

My grandfather was born in 1901. Agnes died in 1904, when my grandfather was 2 years and 4 months old. Thomas had already lost his first wife, an 18-year-old daughter (Alice), and a 24-year-old son (Thomas Junior) not even a year before Agnes' death. He was a Civil War Union veteran who ended up living in a home for disabled veterans. Nobody in his family or Agnes' family took in my grandfather. He ended up being adopted out of a Catholic orphanage in Rochester, New York, when he was 10 years old. 

I have traced Thomas to Armagh. His parents are S. (?) Thomas Mackin (possibly b 1805) and Anna Sarah Murphy (?) Mackin. I believe that S. Thomas' siblings include Elizabeth, John, Bernard, and James. I believe that HIS parents are Bernard and Rose.

I don't know if anyone can help me find any information on this particular set of Mackins. I am happy to have discovered what I have thus far; however, navigating various Irish genealogical tools is very new to me.

Thank you to anyone who can help me.
All the best,
Dani
Florida, USA [/color][/color]