Madden of Articlave nr Coleraine, NI

[TikTokToo]

I am interested in the parentage and siblings of John Madden (1897-1983) born in Dartress, Articlave, Coleraine in 1897.
His Northern Ireland birth certificate has his parents as Andrew Madden and Annie Madden formerly Kyle. His Scottish marriage certificate in 1921 in Glasgow, Scotland has his mother as Annie Madden m.s. Vance. I'm not sure of the Kyle/Vance issue and is one of the things that I'm trying to establish.
Family folklore suggests that John had siblings George, Thomas, William and Mary but I have no details  and would like to know more about them.
Hope someone out there is able to help.

John

[Christopher]

Hiya John,

Andrew, Annie and James Madden of Dunboe, Articlave signed the Ulster Covenent in 1912.

All the Best, Chris

[TikTokToo]

Hello Christopher,

Many thanks for your advice. I now have their signatures and I  know where they lived at that precise period of time. I have also picked up some further clues for other relatives which is a big bonus.

Regards
John

[TikTokToo]

Update

I thought I would let everyone know that I still haven't solved my initial posting on 21 Jan 06.
With the help of "Christopher" I found out that both Andrew Madden and his wife Annie were alive in 1912, when they signed the Ulster Covenant, and still living in Articlave in Dunboe district. This means that Andrew must have died between 1912-1921. His wife Annie Kyle or Vance died after 1921.
It is also possible that Andrew had a son (or a brother) called James. Other relatives could be George Madden and Martha Madden both of whom were living in Pottagh in Dunboe in 1912.

Hope this triggers someones memory.

John

[kintree]

You haven't said if you've done the basics - have you searched the GRO birth register for any siblings of John, and the GRO marriage register for the marriage of Andrew and Annie ?

Adrian

[TikTokToo]

Hello kintree,

Thanks for the very quick response. 

In 2003 I was in touch with GRO in Chichester St., Belfast and paid for a marriage search for a period prior to 1897. This produced only one "hit" of an Andrew Madden and Annie Boyce on 16 May 1884 at Crossgar Presbyterian, Coleraine. I did not think that the entry was relevant and left it at that.
As far as siblings are concerned I am not at all certain that I have the correct names and anticipated a bit of a costly wild goose chase at £20? a certificate and shied away from getting into that morass. It may well be my only option and would appreciate your comment on it.
Thanks again for taking the time to respond.

John

[kintree]

Certainly £20 per dip is not a sensible way to try pot luck.

Can you easily get to Dublin to search in the GRO there ?  It's much cheaper: 20 euro for a day of unlimited searching of the indexes, and then 4 euro for each photocopy of a register-entry.  Since all your dates are pre-1922 you should have no difficulty finding what you want.

If Dublin is not possible for you in person, you might want to pay someone to search on your behalf.  But that takes the price up again.  So how desperately do you want the info ?

Adrian

[TikTokToo]

Hello kintree,

Thanks again for following up on my query.
I live in England and a long way from Dublin and I'm afraid it's the old cost/time justification again. It would be lovely to be able to do what you suggest because I have been there before on a short break - nothing to do with genealogy.
You asked me about how desperate I am to have the info. In this genealogy game there are degrees of desperation that I have learned over the years. I have seriously considered paying for a short report on my Madden family at 75 euros (about £52) and have opted out of that which must mean that I am not that desperate. However it may well come that I eventually have to do that in order to progress.
Thanks again for you interest.

Regards
John

[Christopher]

John, have you had a look at the Emerald Ancestors site