Madden of Articlave nr Coleraine, NI

[aghadowey]

John- are you sure 1884 Andrew Madden & Annie Boyce marriage in Crossgar Presbyterian Church isn't the correct one. Andrew's father was George Madden, also a labourer.

[TikTokToo]

Hello 'Christopher' and 'aghadowey',

You guys have taken me by surprise and I must thank you both for keeping me in mind. It's nearly a year since my last posting on the Maddens and I must admit that I had largely given up on Irish research because of them.

Christopher
I have looked at the Emerald Ancestors site following a tip-off by a fellow rootschatter. However, I failed to find my Andrew Madden. I may have missed something but following your prompting I will have another go.

aghadowey,
The possibility of the Andrew Madden/ Annie Boyce marriage in Coleraine in 1884 being the marriage that I'm after has crossed my mind purely because it is the only marriage of an Andrew that I can find. However I already have my Annie Madden, maiden surname Kyle or  Vance, from actual birth and marriage certificates of her son John.
The possibility that my maiden surnames are Kyle, Vance or Boyce seems unlikely but, as we all learn, not impossible.
Even if I saw the Madden/Boyce marriage certificate I could not be certain that they were the correct couple. I do not have any knowledge of my Maddens  parents.

Thanks again for taking the trouble to help. I will have another think about where I go next.

[kintree]

John

I would say there's no doubt about where to go next: you appear to have continuous residence in Articlave (or round about) from 1897 to 1912.  So you should ask someone to check the Censuses of 1901 and 1911.  If you find your Maddens in either of those, you will get an idea of whether or not John had any siblings.  You will also get the County of birth of each recorded individual, which may help.

You would then get copies of the registration of birth for those siblings, and check the mother's maiden name.

Don't forget that if Andrew Madden married a widow, her surname at marriage would be that of her late (or even latest!) husband.

Adrian

[aghadowey]

Adrian, I think you are correct- 1901 and 1911 census might be best to start.
However, back to 1884 Crossgar marriage- Annie Boyce daughter of Alex Boyce, labourer & Andrew Madden, labourer, son of George also a labourer. Both Andrew and Annie give their residence as Glenleary. Only thing I don't have is names of witnesses.

[TikTokToo]

Hello 'kintree' and 'aghadowey'.

It's amazing - a posting can lie dormant for nearly a year and suddenly burst into life. I am grateful for everyone's suggestions and for taking the trouble to respond.

kintree,
We meet again.
I am not a rookie at this game but the suggestion that I should ask someone to check the 1901 and 1911 census, at no financial cost to themselves, is something that I thought could not be done. I am not aware of a facility on the Ireland site that carries out look-ups. Any requests for look-ups that I have noted seem to go unanswered anyway. As for look-ups on the 1911 census I was not aware that this was even a possibility.
I presume that I have got it all wrong.

aghadowey,
Thanks very much for the Madden/ Boyce info. which follows from your previous post. As I said before I have not entirely ruled them out as possibles. Kintree's suggestion that Annie may have been married more than once has not escaped me either and may be part of the confusion on so called 'maiden surnames'.

[aghadowey]

Crossgar marriage gives Annie as Annie Boyce daughter of Alex Boyce so it is doubtful that she was previously married.

[kintree]

John

I thought Rootschat was specifically designed for requests for lookups - perhaps I have misunderstood it.

The Censuses of Ireland 1901 and 1911 are publicly available.  At the end of this year, the Dublin portion of the 1901 Census MAY become available on the web for free, as a result of a joint project between the National Archives of Ireland and the National Archives of Canada.

Adrian

[DaveHoneyford]

Hi,I'm not sure if anybody is still on this topic, but if anybody is, I know a little about the maddens.

I'm George maddens great great grandson, his wife was named Martha and his children were named Andrew and Annie( my great grandmother). George died on August 8th, 1917, in Belgium, he was in the royal iniskilling fusilers, 10th battalion.
I know very little about Georges life before the war, it would be a great help if anybody did, thanks.


Dave

[kingskerswell]

Dave,
        George Madden married Martha McCallion in Dunboe Presbyterian Church, Coleraine District on 8 Aug 1907.

Regards