Clifton, Bedfordshire - COPPERWAITES - HELP!!

[cathymcc]

Claire

If you look in UK National Archives - e mail them about Assizes Records ...but first get the prison records from Bedford

You will find some info on the COPPERWAITEs here: http://www.schools.bedfordshire.gov.uk/gaol/

But you need to e mail the archivist to get their gaol records [which gives you a physical description of the men] & she should be able to e mail the info back to you as it is all on computer now:
archive@bedscc.gov.uk

There is other stuff too like Poor Law Records but I guess you would like to get straight who was transported to Australia etc first?

The book I told you about costs £5 so is well worth it.  I gave my copy away but remember reading about the Clifton COPPERWAITs and the poor souls did not have much of a life from what I recall...

cathy

[cathymcc]

Claire

I have just read your earlier message - please don't pay for anything you can get for free 

As these people do not help very much often...

Beds Archives has a search site [which is being added to daily] and there is a lot of info that can be gleaned from there on your family.

http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html

cathy

[cathymcc]

PS

My gt uncle, Henry, married an Ivy  COPPERWAITE.  They had no children and so my link to the family is cold...

If you look at the on-line phone book, [I think]there is only one COPPERWAITE listed in Bedfordshire but there are many in Australia - thanks to those guys being transported?

Let me know if you have any trouble accessing the info and I'll see if I can help this end? 

I do wish I still had my Australian peoples contact details as they have done much research on the family - but that was a few years ago now.

You will have seen:
http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Bedfordshire/CliftonRollofHonour.html

?

Which COPPERWAITE did you descend from?  The 1891 census is on-line and complete for Bedfordshire...http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl


All I can think of for now

cathy

[klong]

Hi Cathy,

Do you know where Ivy Copperwaite was born and in what year?  Karen

[cathymcc]

Yes,

Kempston I think [which is near Bedford] & she called herself 'COPPERWHEAT' but it is the same Bedfordshire family...the Kempston branch just chaged the spelling...that would be more to do with teachers in the 19th C telling you how to spell your name........

Reading & writing became compulsory in the 1860/70s so names were often changed then, I understand?

But I know nothing beyond that

cathy

[MagpieCott]

Hi Cathy - there was a Florence Ivy Copperwheat born in 1905 in Islington.  I can have a proper look for more possibilities later - do you know a wrough year of birth for her?  I will also get back to you on how I am related to the Copperwaite's.  You are very right about their name - I have so far come across Copperwaite, Copperwait, Copperwheat, Copperway, Coppermerl, Copperwayte, .......... and others - doesn't make searching very easy does it!!  I think that the people taking the census just spelt the names how they wanted!!
Kind regards
Claire

[cathymcc]

I do not think it is the same woman

My Aunty Ivy wore tiny shoes [which crippled her feet - vanity] and looked like a little doll all painted up..........O, I have made a mistake : it was her sister who married a COPPERWHEAT.  Ivy was a TYSOE and it was her her sister who married the COPPERWHEAT bloke!

They lived at Green End, Kempston - and I used to drive out and take their library books to them in the 1970s.  They used to give me tea & buscuits when I arrived with their books - she liked historical fiction & he liked war novels.

So this is a TYSOE/COPPERWHEAT marriage?
Do you have a record of that?

cathy

[Pommie]

Hi Claire,do you have a fax number?,if so I can send you some of the prison records/transportation records etc. Ps the copperwaite listed in the phone book is my dad,he lives in Haynes.
Glen

[MagpieCott]

Hi Cathy - what was your Aunt's first name (not Ivy - the Copperwheat who married the Tysoe?)

Hi Glen - my husband has a fax number - and that would be most kind of you to fax the prison records to us.   I shall get back to you later with the details.

Thanks both!
Kind regards
Claire