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Caesars
« on: Tuesday 17 January 06 08:08 GMT (UK) »
Looking for anything on the Caesar family from Surrey.  Especially a Frederick Caesar who went to Australia in the later 1800's.  Thanks
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Re: Caesars
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 January 06 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mimmyt

You will need to be a bit more specific!

There are more CAESARs than you might think in Surrey.  There is a Frederick b 1867 that just might be yours?  Have you got some dates, family names, locations?  What information would you like to find?

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Caesars
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 January 06 08:46 GMT (UK) »
I believe my Frederick was born before 1850.  I am mainly after his marriage.  He supposedly came out to Australia with his wife Elizabeth, but can find no record of his marriage in England. She died in Australia.
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Re: Caesars
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 January 06 08:59 GMT (UK) »
Do you have census info then?

There is a Fred born Farncombe 1850, parents Julius (!) and Jane.

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)


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Re: Caesars
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 January 06 09:05 GMT (UK) »
I believe he was born in either Whitley or Guildford, not sure, and his birthdate was before 1850.
Thanks for your help

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Re: Caesars
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 January 06 09:19 GMT (UK) »
How about this one?

1851 census  HO107/1594/54/4

CASAR Stephen H M 56 - farmer 100 acres, 3 labourers - Surrey Poppenharrow
Jemima W M 50 - Surrey Witley
George son U 22 - farmer son - Seal
Emma dau U 20 - do dau - Elstead
Henry son 16? - do son - Witley
Frederick son 14 - do - do
Mary Elizabeth day 13 - do dau - do
Robert Step'n son 11 - do son - Surrey Addleston
Chas Ed son 6 - Woking

Address: Mayford, Woking, Surrey

There are 3 others, but this is the only one b in one of the places you suggest.

1836 born Wotton - servant in 1851
1828 b Godalming - ditto
1833 b Lambeth - with family in Lambeth

Each of the above has a variation on the spelling!
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Caesars
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 January 06 09:23 GMT (UK) »
I do believe he is the one, do you have any record of a marriage to a Elizabeth.

Thanks   ;D
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Re: Caesars
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 January 06 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl  ?

It is not a complete record, however, so you might need to try a payable site such as 1837online which has all records.

Do you have Elizabeth's maiden name?  One of their children's birth cert would give you that, if born in the UK - not sure about elsewhere.  Once you have that is easier to trace the correct marriage.

You need to trust me with a bit more information to get results! LOL  :)

Arranroots  ;)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Caesars
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 January 06 07:24 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeths surname is supposed to be Albert, and her father Henry Albert, but it is doubtful that was his real name, as he was a convict and I can find no record of his marriage or birth.  I was hoping that if I could find a record of her and Fredericks marriage it might state her real surname if Albert is a false one.

thanks ???
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