CHARMAN one name study

[Colin Charman]

Hi, I'm researching the CHARMAN tribe emanating from England to all parts of the world. I have an extensive file of 40,000 Charmans and their close relations and am happy to help anyone with links to the family.

Regards, Colin Charman

[BMG]

Hi Colin,

I think we have conversed before about an Elizabeth Mary Charman born 21/ 6/ 1856 daughter of John Thomas William Charman who committed suicide. Think you were aware that she married an Alfred Keylougher aka Gare 30/6/1875 St Johns Waterloo Road, Surrey. Alfred was awol from the Army and it appears he and his wife were living at 11 Zoar St , Southwark under the name of Williams. They had a son, Alfred William Standen Williams born 11 Zoar St 23/4/1876 who died 8/4/1880 in the Norwood Industrial School, Lambeth in the name of Alfred Gare. Alfred had returned to his regiment and left the country  to fight in the 2nd Anglo Afghanistan War leaving the child in the workhouse. Elizabeth  had died on the 2/5/1876 at 11 Zoar St and her death was registered under the name of Elizabeth Mary Williams.

Regards Brian Gare

[Colin Charman]

Hi again Brian.
thanks for your note. That all fits in with what I had in my file - a lot from you in the first place.

Fascinating that your chap appears to have been awol from the Army, been court martialled, but went on to spend nearly 20 years in the police force.

Regards, Colin Charman

[panda40]

Hi Colin
I have Chapmans from east Kent that I have traced back to 1811( can't get back any further untill I find the time to check parish chest records as parish BMD records have been dammaged) If you have any info I will gladly pass on what I have.
Regards
Panda

[Colin Charman]

Did you mean CHAPMANs or CHARMANs?

Regards, Colin Charman

[miildredmartha]

Hi I cant remember if I have spoken to you before Ive been unwell and its a while since I did any Thing on the Charmans.

My 2x great grand mother was Martha mildred Charman daughter of  Kate Charman  of Woking ... Kate had two illegitimate children  Mary and Martha, she  later married a John Histead and had two more children Alfred and Sarah Ann Histead.
Both Sarah and Martha married brothers .
Martha M married Alfred Lee  (these were mine) Alfred was from Havant  Hampshire
Sarah Ann  Edmund Henry Lee. youngest brother to Alfred Lee
I would like  to know if you have any thing on  Kate Charmans PARENTS AND SIBLINGS PLEASE ?

 known  parent Henry Charman  and he was married to a SARAH ? I am not sure she wasn't his 2nd wife ?

Henry died after the 51 Census for Ripley  Sarah Charman 1864
thanks in advance.
MM
Amended Martha Mildred Charman was my Great Grandmother not 2x
her mother was Kate Charman Parents Sarah and Henry Charman. sorry if I confused you .

[Colin Charman]

Hi, Kate's father was Henry Charman (probably b 1779 Ripley) and her mother Sarah Bagley (possibly 1798 Frensham). They don't appear to have married.

Note the "probably" and "possibly"!! This wasnt a well-recorded family.

Henry's mother was Rebecca Charman (1756 Warnham).

If you drop me a note of your email address I'll open the tree in ancestry for you.

Regards, Colin Charman

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[SMP]

I was wondering if anyone had information about Amelia Emily Jane Lee (my great-great grandmother, born 1849 in Havant, Hampshire)? She married Henry Potter (born 1839, Uphavan, Wiltshire) in 1867. I wondered if she might be the daughter of Thomas Lee (born 1803 in Havant) and Jane (Carter) Lee, born 1812?  If so, she would be the sister of Edmund Henry Lee.

I am new to genealogy and would greatly appreciate any information about the Lee or Potter families.

Thank you!
SMP

[Colin Charman]

Hi,
Amelia Jane Lee (recorded also as Emily) was baptised 29/4/1849 at Havant St Faiths, daughter of Thomas Lee and Jane (nee Carter). There is an Edmond Lee baptised 30/3/1851 same place and parents.

My interest is Alfred Lee who married Martha Mildred Charman.

I'm aware of 11 children for Thomas and Jane.

Regards, Colin Charman