index of old Merthyr streets?

[NigelG]

I don't recognise a Bank Street in Merthyr 

We do have an area called Sunny Bank that used to contain a number of streets of terraced houses off the Brecon Road near Cyfarthfa Ironworks.

Next to Sunny Bank was Park Street - could it be Park instead of Bank Street?

If this is the address of the informant - could you let me know where the child was registered as being born or where the child is recorded as living on the 1891 census - might help me to narrow things down for you. 

[anneymouse]

Hi Nigel, I never thought about Sunny Bank, could be that the person at the registrars misheard and just put Bank.  Funnily enough, my dad grew up in Brewery Street, and on the Merthyr photo site, there is a photo for Sunny Bank, and a photo for Brewery Street and they are the same!

The birth cert says that the informant was Louisa Thomas of 10 Bank Street, definately doesn't say Park Street.

Could you please look up 10 Sunny Bank St on the 1891 census?  Thanks in advance

[NigelG]

10 Sunny Bank had a John & Mary Humphries as residents in 1891 - so no luck there 

There are 4 Louisa Thomas on the 1891 census in Merthyr at

2 Iron Lane, Georgetown - born 1820, Bridgend
80, Gilfach Cynon, Twynyrodyn - born 1852, Merthyr
9, North St, Penydarren - born 1859, Merthyr &
Galon Uchaf Cottage - born 1875, Merthyr

What address is given for the birthplace of the child? If Louisa was a neighbour or living near that address, this may give us a clue? 

[anneymouse]

Thanks Nigel, I am pretty sure it says Bank Street though, trouble is, the birthplace, and the address of the informant, are both 10 Bank Street   If it is Park Street, they wrote some strange P's :-0

[NigelG]

Same address - aargh - how frustrating! 

Re the child recorded on the birth cert - have you managed to find him/her on the 1901 census?

I have a copy of a large scale OS map of Merthyr from 1875 that gives street names so finding out where the child or his/her family were living in 1901 might help me narrow down the search  

[anneymouse]

Oh wow!  that would certainly help!  Unfortunately, he wasn't born until 1907.  The closest I can get to his mother (Ellen Jane Thomas) was a family that lived in Jones Street in 1901 (why do people have to move!!)  Trouble is, with someone called Louisa living in the same house, and registering the birth, one would imagine that she is a sister or mother to Ellen Jane, but her name isn't in the Jones St Thomas family.  I am wondering though, if Louisa might have just not been at home in 1901.  Not only is it like finding a needle in a haystack, but I think someone forgot to chuck the needle in :s

[NigelG]

Can you post the details you found on the 1901 census for Ellen Jane Thomas. How old is she - parent/sibling names - ages etc.

The only Ellen Thomas I can find that could be suitable is living in John Street.

Just in case - do you have the marriage details for Ellen Jane as well - who does she marry - where is he recorded as living - what's his father's name and occupation.

If you give me as much info as possible it'll help me narrow things down 

[anneymouse]

HI again Nigel, I can't get any information back past Ellen Jane I just keep hitting brick walls, the only way I got her name was through my grandad's birth certificate I don't know if she did marry, or who she married even

Down_under found a suitable Ellen Jane here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,119066.0.html

But there is no Louisa in the family unit - so frustrating!

[NigelG]

OK - so is there no father's name on your grandfather's birth certificate? If there is a name, I can look for a marriage record to see if this will help. 

Re the family in Ystradyfodwg - BMDs were registered in Pontypridd by that time so if the birth cert you have says Merthyr that excludes that family.

To clarify BMDs for Ystradyfodwg were recorded in Merthyr between 1837 & 1863 - at that point they transferred to Pontypridd.