Looking for Fadzens in Scotland

[Rose224]

The people in the Durham boards were so helpful and I learned much from them.  However, when I tried to pick up the trail in Scotland, I am striking out.  Would someone help me get going again with finding anything I can on the following:

Joseph Fadzen, born 1822 in Scotland (not sure which area)
and
Jane Fadzen, born 1822 in Wigtonshire Scotland.

I would appreciate your pointing me in the right direction if you can.

[MonicaL]

Hi Rose

I think you might have a problem researching the name 'Fadzen' in Scotland. Maybe something has been lost in the translation! There are only 2 entries coming up on IGI for the entire British Isles at any time (one marriage and one birth).

A possible variant of the name might be McFadden (and alternative spellings). I am getting one IGI entry for a Jane McFadden b.1830 in Kirkcowan, Wigtown (submitted record so treat with caution) who went on to marry a William Millar in Wigtown. Unfortunately, no luck with Joseph using McFadden.

Regards.
Monica

[Clare Fowler]

Hi there,

Other versions of the name may be Fadyen or McFadyen (or alternative spellings of those too).

I am guessing (hopefully another rootschatter will put me right on this if I am wrong!  , but from looking at the spelling, this name would originally have had a letter called a 'yogh' rather than a z in it.  This letter was used in old English and Scots, but died out.  the same problem appears in names like Dalziel and Menzies which would not have had a z in them originally.  The yogh tends to be substituted for a z or a y (although I can't think of a 'y' example off the top of my head).  You can get more info on it here...  http://www.scottishhandwriting.com/content/default.asp?page=s4_3_15

I hope you can track them down.

Cheers,
Clare

[RJ_Paton]

There are no fadzens listed in the 1851 index for lanarkshire County area but there are 85 individuals  listed with 10 variations on the spelling (including Mcfadzen)

[Rose224]

Are any of the 85 variations Joseph?  How can I pull up that census and look at the names?  I am a world member of Ancestry.com but I don't think I have mastered it yet.  The people on the Durham boards give me information that I can't pull up yet.  I guess I am still too new at this.

[RJ_Paton]

Ancestry don't have any of the Scottish Census records (although they may have the transcribed version of the 1881 from the LDS)

There are 3 Josephs

Joseph McFadden aged 8 born in England (son of John & Judith)
Joseph McFadgeon age 46 born in Ireland
Joseph Mcfadgeon age 11 born in Ayrshire (father and son)

Scottish records can be accessed on the pay site http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

[Rose224]

The age is not right on any of those three.  My Joseph would have been 29 in 1851.  But I will try the pay site.  Thank you so much.

[Tati]

Hope you don't mind me butting in, Rose    

According to the 1861 when they are in Durham, the family  should look like this in 1851:  
Joseph Fadzen age 29
Jane (wife) age 29
Jane (daughter) age 9
John (son) age 3
Janet (daughter) age 0

Tanja  

  

[Rose224]

Please -  butt in all you want.  I am floundering here.    Your information on the Durham board was so helpful.