Baptisms Stroud/Rodborough area

[slewi4]

Hi Susan,
Sorry, I was asleep here in Australia
I don't have a marriage certificate for Joseph & Harriet Just the entry on the IGI which I emailed the county records office about, and they confirmed the detail, but could only add the witnesses names, no ages, addresses or occupations.
I have Harriet jnr's marriage certificate (Blatherwycke NTH 1852) which states her father's occupation as Ostler, and her death certificate (QLD Aust 1863) which states his occupation as Horse Dealer.
The only birth certificate that I could get for the children of this couple would be Joseph jnr's (I think thats him on FreeBDM Sep 1/4 1837 Stroud, vol 11 page 302), but I didn't get it because I don't think it would tell me anything about his parents that I don't already know.
Someone else researching this family has included the names and ages of the 1841 Bristol children in their data and says that they were all baptised 9 Oct 1836 at Rodborough - I couldn't find proof of this and so always doubted it.
I think Harriet jnr was in Blatherwycke in 1851.
Sandra

[slewi4]

I was interrupted by a knock on my door while writing the last message, and dragged away to help restump my house - I didn't realise we were supposed to start so early. Its been avery long day!
I did mean to thank both Susan and Arranroots (hadn't yet scrolled down to check if Arranroots signs with another name) for their assistance. Its very much appreciated.
The same person who said that the children were baptised in Rodborough in 1836, also said that Joseph snr was baptised there in 1801 and that his parents were Thomas WALTERS and Martha MAYO. There is an IGI entry for this, but I don't know if he is 'my' Joseph.
Although I think that the 1841 Bristol family are probably them, something doesn't quite add up: I understand that ages were rounded down in the 1841 Census, and so a 30yr old may actually be up to 34yrs old, and therefore the birth year would be 1807 at the earliest, making the groom 17yrs old in 1825 which seems a bit unlikely.  Its possible that they lied about their ages in 1841, and also their birthplaces.
Bugger! I've just checked and seen a birth for Maria WALTERS Dec 1/4 1838 in Langport Somerset This certifficate could prove/disprove if the Bristol family are mine. I think I'm going to have to get it to be sure.
Sandra

[Arranroots]

Hi Sandra

What is restumping?  Is it good?  Should I get it done??!! 

I can't see the Harriet you fancy in 1851 - what is her married name?  (I had never heard of Blatherwycke, so this is quite an education!).  I can see an older Harriet born Stroud.

The occupation is interesting - if a horse dealer, the family could have been quite mobile.  If an ostler it suggests that Joseph was employed and would move with the jobs.  Either way, Stroud or Somerset to Northumberland is quite a hike!

Sorry about the q about certs earlier - of course there wouldn't be any for these dates.  I am interested to know what info you are certain of and which bits are theories you are testing though. 

Let us know if we can help further (or at all!! LOL)

Arranroots 

[slewi4]

Ah restumping! Its not good, its necessary. You probably won't need to get it done. 
Skip this if you're not terribly interested: Early (1870's to 1920's ish) Queenslander-style houses  were bulit on stilts (called stumps) to create shade underneath and keep the house cool in our very hot summers. The stumps were put straight into the ground - no concrete in those days. Over time, they get damaged by water, termites, subsidance etc., and they make the whole house 'out of square' i.e the floor and walls slope in different directions and doors & windows don't close well. Restumping fixes it all for the next 90 or so years. If you're really keen go to www.realestate.com.au and type in id no 102737020 for a newly-restumped example, or 102852717 for a typical closed-in-with-pailings example.
Harriet was married in 1852 so should still be Walters in 1851. Did I put the wrong code? I meant Northamptonshire, not Northumberland.
I am certain of Stroud being the birthplace for both Harriet jnr & Joseph jnr. Its on her daughter Ellen's birth certificate, her death certificate, and his marriage certificates. All of these certificates are Australian (ours have more detail than the English/Welsh ones  ) Harriet jnr's birth year is consistent on her marriage certificate, immigration record, daughter's birth certificate, and death certificate. Joseph jnr's birth year is consistent on his marriage certificates and register of burial.
Joseph WALTERS and Harriet nee WICKHAM are consistently cited as the parents for both.
Thomas, Eliza and Maria are theory, as are the Rodborough baptisms - Is there some way I can check the baptisms if they aren't on the IGI?
Sandra

[Arranroots]

Oh I have come over all unneccessary after seeing that house!  Funny how it looks like a precipitous height because there is nothing underneath, whereas it is prob only as high as the first floor of any other house!  Thanks:  I have been informed & edificated!

I fear you are being more help to me than vice versa with this query!  Blatherwycke sounded northern, so my brain (!) did the rest & made it Northumberland.  Have given self stern talking-to.

Unless someone out there has the GFHS baptisms you will need a visit to the record office to confirm the baptisms.  I don;t know when I will be there next, but I will keep a note in case you still need the info.

kind regards, Arranroots 

[AngelaR]

Hi Folks
Sorry I didn't spot this thread before - distracted with getting the bathroom redone and having no bath at the moment It's not up to restumping but still.....

My local library (10 minutes walk away) has the parish records for Rodborough (and Stroud come to that) so I can double check the dubious baptisms for you, Sandra, if you can wait a day or two until my next shopping trip. Can't leave the house at the moment as plumbing bits keep being delivered.....

Best wishes

Angela

[Keziahemm]

What an education RootsChat is 

Restumping    I prefer the one with the pailings, don't like heights, although as Arran said probably only at first floor level.

Joseph's occupation of "Ostler" could fit in with "Coach man" in 1841.

Angela's Rodborough look ups should help.  I was in the Glos Record Office last week carrying out look ups for folk, and some of the Stroud baptism registers  included mother's maiden name    so fingers crossed.

regards

Susan 

[slewi4]

Wow! Thanks very much for the offer Angela. I can wait that long - I've got 4 more restumping days to keep me occupied.
Arranroots you are a bad person for making me laugh like that. I hurt in places that I didn't know I had, and moreso when I laugh.
Thank you all for your help and suggestions.
Sandra

[AngelaR]

Hi Sandra

Just to let you know that I hadn't forgotten you - I just haven't been able to get to the library. I'm working on a contract with a delivery date of Monday and I've been spending too much time on-line (as you well know from my other posts), so I'm behind 

However, the good news is that Monday is an absolute deadline, so after that I'll be free and the library opens late on Mondays 

Is the restumping all finished now? As Susan said - RootsChat is certainly an education. When I left school I knew almost nothing about geography or history and  certainly not house construction Now I can see my friends' eyes glazing over while I share with them the latest bits of information I've learned.....

I'll be back Monday, if not before

Best wishes

Angela