Lamper/Trangmar(er) problems again

[Theli p]

Jan
Thanks. I really thought you had them but on checking they are not together and nothing seems to match. What a shame! How did you find those two names. Did you somehow do a first name search?

Anyway thanks for trying. I am going to have another search now. I think they will turn up eventually.
Thelma

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[Theli p]

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[Trangy]

Hi Thelma,

It is possible it is Hannah TRANGMAR baptised 2 Mar 1845, Patcham, Sussex. Daughter of William and Ann (nee BARTLETT)

Other children were:-
Sarah               1842
Mary                 1847
Hester              1849
Martha             1852
Ann                  1854    died 1857
William             1857
Louisa              1860
Henry Charles  1863
Arthur               1869
All baptised at Patcham, Sussex.

Hope that helps,
Trangy.

[Theli p]

Hi Trangy,
I would like to think that you have the correct Hannah. Unfortunately I cannot find any record of her marriage to James lamper so cannot prove that this is the correct one.

In the 1851 census William appears to be married to Sarah but by 1861 his wife is given as Ann. Do you think they are the same person? There also appears to be another daughter  Sally born 1843 could this be Sarah born 1842? I am having a lot of problems with their use of different first names.

As you are involved with a one name study do you happen to know who another William Trangmar was. In the 1841 census he is given as age 51 ag lab living in Sompting street Sompting where James Lamper's family lived. It would be great if I could link that William with Hannah's family. I believe that Hannah's grandfather was Richard Trangmar born 1776 perhaps this William was his brother!

Thanks for your help so far and please let me know if you know of any links with the Lampers.
Thanks Thelma

[Patsy Anne]

Hello Theli p
It has been a while but I do have more information. Alice was Alice Blake. She had son Frank out of wedlock in Jan 1892 and married Harry Halford Trangmar in April 1892. They had two daughters, Florence b 1893 and Margaret b 1895. Harry died in Colchester on 23/3/1900. As you know, in the 1901 census Alice and the children are living as Lampers with James and Hannah and Alice is described as a widow.I have her death certificate and there she is described as widow of Alfred Henry Lamper, Blacksmith. I still cannot find Alfred's birth or death, nor his marriage to Alice. So some answers but still lots of questions.

[[Ray]]

Hi

Marriage 1892 Jun Brighton 2b 413 Harry HOLFORD TRANGMAR (Alice Blake has ref 2b 412)
Death 1900 Mar Colchester  4a 470 Harry HALFORD TRANGMER

Re Sarah b1842 / Sally b1843 - Sally can often be found as a "pet" name for Sarah

Ray

[Patsy Anne]

Thanks Ray but I already have the relevant certificates.

[[Ray]]

Hi

It was more to show the possible spelling differences, to help others to help you.

Also people, down the line, looking for possible matches.

R