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Re: Help with a Scotcher "myth"
« Reply #18 on: Monday 22 October 07 16:05 BST (UK) »
Just to complicate the story...

There was a George Scotcher who wrote a famous book on fly-fishing called "The Fly Fisher's Legacy" published around 1810. It was a sort of bible for fly-fishermen (and women, of course). The book is long out of print and - if a copy was discovered - it would be quite valuable.

Here's a link to a description of the book...
http://books.google.com/books?id=KwsAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA190&lpg=PA190&dq=scotcher+fly+fishing&source=web&ots=oxsaPGQy8h&sig=GluWcjDOiwLpueAx99Iufir2_uw

I think this George Scotcher may have been an uncle of Nicholas Stuart Scotcher. In some notes I have from Auntie Bena (Marianne Scotcher, 1837-1935) I seem to remember that she refers to him.

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Re: Help with a Scotcher "myth"
« Reply #19 on: Monday 22 October 07 19:16 BST (UK) »
Just to complicate the story...

There was a George Scotcher who wrote a famous book on fly-fishing called "The Fly Fisher's Legacy" published around 1810. It was a sort of bible for fly-fishermen (and women, of course). The book is long out of print and - if a copy was discovered - it would be quite valuable.

Here's a link to a description of the book...
http://books.google.com/books?id=KwsAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA190&lpg=PA190&dq=scotcher+fly+fishing&source=web&ots=oxsaPGQy8h&sig=GluWcjDOiwLpueAx99Iufir2_uw
I think this George Scotcher may have been an uncle of Nicholas Stuart Scotcher. In some notes I have from Auntie Bena (Marianne Scotcher, 1837-1935) I seem to remember that she refers to him.


Intriguing thanks, I've just spent the weekend in Chester with Myles Denton-Clark's family and  discovered they were all heavily into fishing.  there are big notebooks with records of the fish caught and newspaper articles on what the fishing is like this season.

Ohh and I just found an article about how Fred Scotcher was running the local newsagent ;o) I'll get more info for you when I have a moment to look at it properly
Sorry I'm just going through my parents things and new things are coming to light all the time.

I wondered about the uncle/nephew thing - it still could be true even though they were only born a year apart

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Re: Help with a Scotcher "myth"
« Reply #20 on: Monday 22 October 07 20:30 BST (UK) »
The book was published in 1810, I think. Clearly George Scotcher was one, maybe two, generations up from Nicholas.

Did you meet Edward, by any chance?

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Re: Help with a Scotcher "myth"
« Reply #21 on: Monday 22 October 07 20:33 BST (UK) »
I've got a couple of names that were noted down that might help us ...

Captain Thomas Stuart - Adjudant of Chelsea Hospital
born 1668 - 26/10 1750

Simon Stuart of Hartley Hampshire

Now I know nothing more than these were written down on a piece of paper amongst all that I have


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Re: Help with a Scotcher "myth"
« Reply #22 on: Monday 22 October 07 20:36 BST (UK) »
The book was published in 1810, I think. Clearly George Scotcher was one, maybe two, generations up from Nicholas.

Did you meet Edward, by any chance?

Ah thanks.
Yes I did ;o) he's lovely

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Re: Help with a Scotcher "myth"
« Reply #23 on: Monday 22 October 07 23:33 BST (UK) »
I've got the same pieces of paper! However, I was able to find something interesting about (Sir) Simon Stuart. He must have been some kind of forebear, but I can't make the connection yet.

Anyway, what I found was from a magazine whose name I forget for the moment. The publication, which existed for about 40 - 50 years in the early 1700s, is actually available online. Or it was a few years ago when I found the reference to Sir Simon Stuart.

There was a small article, no more than a paragraph or so, which told that he had been lucky enough to find a treasure trove of gold coins buried on his land by his grandfather during the English Civil War.

I'll try to dig it out in a few days and give you specifics.

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Re: Help with a Scotcher "myth"
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 00:34 BST (UK) »
I've got the same pieces of paper! However, I was able to find something interesting about (Sir) Simon Stuart. He must have been some kind of forebear, but I can't make the connection yet.

Anyway, what I found was from a magazine whose name I forget for the moment. The publication, which existed for about 40 - 50 years in the early 1700s, is actually available online. Or it was a few years ago when I found the reference to Sir Simon Stuart.

There was a small article, no more than a paragraph or so, which told that he had been lucky enough to find a treasure trove of gold coins buried on his land by his grandfather during the English Civil War.

I'll try to dig it out in a few days and give you specifics.

thanks! that sounds fascinating
there must be more information if he was a 'Sir'

I'll let you know if i come up with anything

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Re: Help with a Scotcher "myth"
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 00:38 BST (UK) »
"In the parish church (of Countesbury or Countisbury) is a tablet in memory of Sir Simon Stuart, Bart., of Hartley Mauduit, Hants, who died in 1816."
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=50573


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Re: Help with a Scotcher "myth"
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 00:44 BST (UK) »
"In the parish church (of Countesbury or Countisbury) is a tablet in memory of Sir Simon Stuart, Bart., of Hartley Mauduit, Hants, who died in 1816."
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=50573



this of course is a different Simon Stuart to yours..
I also found a major Sir Simon coming back from the Boer wars in 1900..
http://www.angloboerwar.com/Other/shipping/190012.htm
he might be the same one from Hartley but not I fear related any closer to the mystery of the Scotchers!