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Re: Jenkin & Catherine Davies,Llangeitho
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 January 06 07:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello again!

If you get really stuck with your translations, feel free to post the text here & we (royal we LOL!!) can have a go. Or post the photo on the Common Room board.

Alternatively, this site comes in quite handy in addition to the one you are already using!

Now we are in suspense, so don't forget to let us know!  :)

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Jenkin & Catherine Davies,Llangeitho
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 January 06 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello Arranroots,
I feel like I've hit the jackpot!My mums cousin has sent her various birth certificates including Catharine Williams.And she also has the family bible with other dates.Jenkin was apparently a farm servant so this might fit with the second lot of details on the 1881 census.I'm shooting over to my mothers now as the suspense is killing me!!I'll post more later and let you have a laugh at my welsh translation!!
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Re: Jenkin & Catherine Davies,Llangeitho
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 January 06 14:07 GMT (UK) »
Hello again - I won't be laughing!  Rootschatters know that my Welsh is limited to asking where my crisps are and saying I like coffee - not helpful for gravestones!!

But I know a man who does...

 ;D

Really good news!  Talk again later??

A  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Jenkin & Catherine Davies,Llangeitho
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 January 06 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello again,
Firstly the dates
Catharine Williams 26/9/1851    5/9/1926
Rhydfydyr,Lledrod
mother  Dorothy(Formerly Williams)
father    John Williams

Catharine married Jenkin Davies (13/8/1858    25/12/1917) on 10/3/1882

Children
John W   19/6 /1882    23/7/1916   married  16/6/1912
Mary        17/8/1885    26/7/1950   married   20/5/1915 This date of death is wrong as she died before my sister was born which would make it either August or September 1948
Dorothy   20/2/1890    18/7/1913
Martha     18/2/1893    26/4/1957   married   11/8/1922
On Marthas birth certificate it states that Jenkin was a farm servant. The house (Hen)Bont Fach is quite a big house for a farm servant to own. Is it possible this comes under the farmer John Rowlands? It is situated on the outskirts of the village. Is this Tyndolau or is this the name of another house? Is it possible to obtain old maps of the village?
Sorry ,too many questions but my head is just buzzing!
Thanks  Amanda Melanie
ps I'll leave the Welsh for now as that is my grandfathers side of the family and I'll get confused!!!   

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Re: Jenkin & Catherine Davies,Llangeitho
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 January 06 21:33 GMT (UK) »
They should stand out like a sore thumb now!

But they aren't!

Still looking!

A  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Jenkin & Catherine Davies,Llangeitho
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 January 06 21:45 GMT (UK) »
OK I have found Catherine + daughters in 1901 - not widowed, as I thought!

Here they are

RG13/5158/43/6

DAVIES Cathrine H M 49 - Lledrod
Dorothy dau 11 - Gwynfil
Martha dau 8 - ditto

Address: 5 Meidrim Rd, Gwynfil, Cardiganshire

Could be they moved about into "tied accomodation" according to Jenkin's work.

Will go back to 1891, but it didn't look promising!

A  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Jenkin & Catherine Davies,Llangeitho
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 January 06 22:04 GMT (UK) »
I can't find Catherine & the girls in 1891 - they should by rights be in Gwnfil.  I did find what could be your Jenkin however - possibly working for a relative?  There is a ROWLAND family next door but one!

RG23/4563/42/10

DAVIES David H M? 36 or 65? - farmer - Llanio, Cardiganshire
DAVIES Elizabeth W M 38 - Sartheli? do
DAVIES John son 8 - Gwynfil
DAVIES Mary dau 5 - ditto
DAVIES David son 3 - ditto
DAVIES Jenkin serv M 32 - farm serv - Cilcenin
EDWARDS Jane serv U 17 - gen serv - Sarthely?
EDWARDS Ellen serv U 13 - gen serv - ditto

Address: Brynmaen, Gwynfil, Cardiganshire
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Jenkin & Catherine Davies,Llangeitho
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 January 06 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Found them!  :D

Mistranscribed as EVANS ?!?

RG12/4563/38/1

DAVIES Catherine Wife Mar 37 - farm serv wife - Lledrod
DAVIES John son 8 - Gwinfil
DAVIES Mary dau 5 - ditto
DAVIES Dorothy dau 1 - ditto
MORGANS Anne lodger 1 - Bettws
WILLIAMS Margaret vis U 47 - living on own means - Lledrod
JAMES Mary vis U 17 - gen serv - Gwnws

Address: Pontfach, Gwynfil, Cardiganshire

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Jenkin & Catherine Davies,Llangeitho
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 January 06 00:53 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks,
Are Gwynfil and Tyndolau places/villages or house names? I know the family moved at somepoint into the village of Llangeitho into Brynawel but for some reason Catharines funeral procession left from Bont Fach. My mother can remember a tall hedge and roses around the door. Brynawel is mid terrace. Mary could possibly have left at 16yrs to go into service. I shall check this out.
Thanks again
Amanda Melanie
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