AUSTRALIA: Edward Edwin Seymour

[eramophla]

I am trying to determine when an Edward Edwin Seymour left Australia and arrived in England.

Census records for 1881 onwards indicate that Edward was born in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Birth & baptism records in Australia have been checked and there is no documentary evidence of Edward's birth. Family information records his birth as 10.5.1842 and his marriage certificate states that his father was a 'James Seymour, gentleman'. Family legend says that Edward had a sister Margaret (who married and went to Canada) and a brother Thomas (who supposedly died in the Boxer Rebellion in China in 1900). Again, no documentary evidence has surfaced to prove the existance of James, Margaret or Thomas.

The first concrete evidence we have of Edward's existance is his marriage in 1874 to Caroline Teague in Glyntaff, Glamorgan. His life after this date is reasonably well documented. If Edward was truly born in Australia, I am trying to determine when he went to England, and if he lived in Wales for several years before his marriage. I have checked several online passenger indexes for Australia with no luck and he does not seem to appear in the 1871 census for Wales. I have had the 1871 census for Devon checked, because this is where his wife's family came from - again, no luck.

There appears to have been some 'lie telling' in this family in regards to family history, in order to cover up some skeleton in the closet. I checked several convict databases for a James Seymour in case this was the skeleton, and although several James Seymour's appeared, I have not been able to prove any connection to them. Another interesting reference I found was in a posting on the 'Rootsweb' site to an Edward Seymour, aged about 19, who deserted the barque 'Melrose' on 14/10/1860 at Portland, Victoria, Australia. I have not had the opportunity to pursue the line of enquiry regarding this Edward further at this stage.

Any assistance anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.

[gennig]

Hi eramophla

Don't know if this is of any interest but 1861 census has the following family.

RG9/830 Fol: 30 Page: 9
Spencer Street, St Albans Hertfordshire
James Seymour Head 42 Basset Herts Occupation: Gentleman
Louisa Seymour Wife 32 Bedford Gentlesman's wife
James Seymour Son 19 Buntington Herts Gentleman's son
Eliza Seymour Daughter 16 Moan Green Herts Scholar
Maria Seymour Daughter 6 Melbourne Australia Scholar
Louisa T Seymour Daughter 3 Melbourne Australia Scholar
Henry T Seymour Son 4mths St albans "Ditto" but I really think i means Herts

The Victorian Indexes have the following:-
Marion Olive Seymour born 1855 Melbourne Reg: 9948 (Christened at St James)
Louisa Seymour born 1857 Prahran Reg: 13963
Parents listed as James Seymour & Louisa Taylor.

Cheers
Genni

[eramophla]

Thanks Genni. This gives me another line of enquiry to investigate!

[lionmands]

Good morning. My name is david seymour , descendant of edward edwin seymour. He is my 2nd great grandfather. If you wish to chat more about him, i have pics and info on him on my ancestry page, along with what descendants i have info on. Take care, will chat soon.

[majm]

Hi there,

Welcome to RChat.  The posts that you have found were made back in January 2006, so I am not sure when you would be contacted by eramophla. 

Do you have info about Edward Edwin Seymour's parents ?  I am not related, I am usually found on the Aussie Boards, so of course I spotted your post today, and since then I have looked for James Seymour's arrival to Australia.  Perhaps it is the one that's indexed at the NSW State Records Office as arriving with wife on the Strathfieldsay in January 1838.  James Seymour aged 27, a quarryman and his wife aged 25.    Victoria was not formed into a separate colony until separated from NSW administration in the 1850's.   If looking for birth of any children in the 1840's it would be recorded as NSW, but it would be baptismal records and not civil birth registrations that may be found (Civil registration commenced 1856).

Here's the links to RChat resources for both Victoria and for NSW
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369963.0.html Victoria Australia
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369703.0.html New South Wales Australia

Once you have made three posts at RChat you will have full access to many features, including sending private messages to other RChatters. 

Again, Welcome to RChat, and if you want help with any Aussie queries, do consider starting a thread on the Aussie Board, we are all very friendly and helpful 

Cheers,  JM

[lionmands]

Soryy i dont have any info on his parents, still looking(, but i have copies of documents of his marriage, concesus forms of england where he settled down.Its very hard to find info on his parents, no luck yet, I have births and deaths for most of his children right up to my family so far.