APPLEYARDS Ltd [Joseph], [Conisbro, Sheffield, YKS]

[oly]

Hello fionnghal,

I have spoken to the Marshes and only 500 of the books were printed all of which were sold. No further print is envisaged.
I obtained the family permission to copy the photographs and parts of the book that you would require. I also enquired about the original photographs, these were returned, to the source that Allen loaned them from.
I will scan the pages and email them to you, send me a personal message with your email address.
To wet your appetite the article starts -

The Appleyards:
It has been impossible to select but one member of the Appleyard family for inclusion in this section of local Characters. Perhaps this is to be expected when one considers that they have been in buisness at Conisbrough in unbroken line through seven generations spanning almost 220 years since Joseph Appleyard, 1777 - 1839, and after naval service at the time of Nelson, became a Cabinet Maker.  and etc.

Regards Oly

[daverrm]

Hi

My GG Grandfather was Joseph Appleyard (1848-1909). I have posted my tree online at http://www.gencircles.com/users/frodo18/2/data/75 (this will go to Joseph) so please feel free to have a look as it may add a few bits to yours.

A fair bit of my Appleyard history was researched by my Great Uncle Donald (Joseph's grandson) and has also been supplied by various other Appleyard descendants who have contacted me after seeing my tree.

I also have some scanned photos of various members of the Appleyard family from Donald and I visted Joseph's grave (photo also) at Conisbrough on a recent holiday up to Yorkshire.

Please feel free to get in touch if you want to see any of this.

Cheers

Dave Morris

[acorngen]

I did some research on this family about 12 months ago for a client.  Unfortunately I no longer have the notes I took.  What I do remember though is that they connect to the APPLEYARD family of Selby but how I cannot remember now.

Rob

[acorngen]

Just to add to what I have now read.  The TYAS family are a fairly well to do family from conisbrough.  First mention of them in the village was a marriage in 1577. 

I am slowly transcribing the Parish Registers for COnisbrough and the first release is imminent, so keep an eye on the for sale boards.

There are no baptisms or marriages for Appleyards before 1741.  I havent completed the burials yet but to 1665 there were no burials either.

Rob

[acorngen]

Having started and now nearing completion of transcribing the BMD's for Conisbrough I can tell you Joseh APPLEYARD was baptised 18th July 1819 the son of Joseph & Jane Cabinet Maker.  Joseph Snr. was buried 1st Dec 1839 aged 62 years.  Jane Senior was buried 12th Apr 1863 Aged 70 years

Here are his siblings all baptised Conisbrough.
Sarah 29th Nov 1811 Born 18th Nov 1811
George 7th Aug 1814
Samuel 27th Jan 1817 Buried 17th May 1838
William  14th Oct 1821
Charles 1st Dec 1823 Buried 21st May 1824
Jane 16th May 1825 Buried 23rd May 1858
Mary Harriet 26th Jul 1833  Buried 29th Dec 1833
Henry 7th Jul 1836  BUried 12th Aug 1836
Edward Horatio Victory 29th Jan 1838  Buried 30th Jun 1838

The fact there is an 8 year break I am wondering if the transcripts I had to use to transcribe these have made a mistake and these latter children should be linked to another mother.  Either that or the two baptisms to a Ann during that 8 year gap is transcribed wrong.  I will ask the archivist to check this within the original when I attend on Friday.

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a marriage for this couple however the register between 1754 and 1812 is missing and the BT's may not have everybody listed. 
There is also no baptism for Joseph in Conisbrough   There is also no Baptism for a Jane fitting the age at death of this Jane.  Well I hope that helps.  I will check those missing years on Friday for you and get back

Rob

[fionnghal]

Here are his siblings all baptised Conisbrough.
Sarah 29th Nov 1811 Born 18th Nov 1811
George 7th Aug 1814
Samuel 27th Jan 1817 Buried 17th May 1838
William  14th Oct 1821
Charles 1st Dec 1823 Buried 21st May 1824
Jane 16th May 1825 Buried 23rd May 1858
Mary Harriet 26th Jul 1833  Buried 29th Dec 1833
Henry 7th Jul 1836  BUried 12th Aug 1836
Edward Horatio Victory 29th Jan 1838  Buried 30th Jun 1838

The fact there is an 8 year break I am wondering if the transcripts
There is also no baptism for Joseph in Conisbrough   There is also no Baptism for a Jane fitting the age at death of this Jane. 

Rob, thanks you for remembering me and my Appleyards.    Since i wrote the earlier enquiries i've had a lot of help from fellow subscriber to this thread, Oly, who found me tons of records on the family.  Hugh also sent me some fascinating material that gave me a much deeper understanding of the family.  However, as is always the case, there are still many gaps

You have some kiddies missing and i do believe they are all our Jane & Joseph's.  I was beginning to have doubts myself but in fact i confirmed mum's birth & christening only last night as it happens, and that makes her 46 when their last child was born - still young enough though as her later babies didn't survive well, chances were she was no longer fit for pregnancies.

I'll away and look out my records and post the missing details shortly as i appreciate you'll be needing them for your own transcription task. 

Thanks again, Rob.   
le durachd
fionnghal

[acorngen]

Fion i have transcribed the registers and thats all I can do.  I have the other children but they have been transcribed as Joseph & Ann as parents and thats what I will need to check when I go to the archives.  The staff there are pretty good at checkinng original registers and it may well be my reading it wrong.  James bap 6th July 1828  Thackeray 12th Jun 1831 which fills the gap between those listed as Jane's children.

Rob

[fionnghal]

I have the other children but they have been transcribed as Joseph & Ann as parents and thats what I will need to check when I go to the archives.  The staff there are pretty good at checking original registers and it may well be my reading it wrong.  James bap 6th July 1828  Thackeray 12th Jun 1831 which fills the gap between those listed as Jane's children.

Yes, they fit very well.  I have a copy of both those two entries, and the Ann is very unclear but as it happens, i agree with your find.  Other researchers have accepted these entries as legitimate kids, and are probably right.  When i went back to my tree, i found these two were only bracketed in; I'd forgotten they were needing further research.

re the parents:
Joseph Appleyard  b. bet.1765 & 1777 [these are the dates offered by different researchers of this family.  I prefer to remain very open-ended on what i believe but lean towards the later years which ties in with his age at death which is all the concrete evidence i have to date.  I don't believe he was b. in Conisborough. 

Jane Chester, chr. 17 Mar 1792 Conistone, Gargrave [possibly].  Fellow lister here, Dave Morris, has another take on Jane's origins and he certainly presents very logical arguments.   I'm still considering them but am working on a DEV twig just now so feel i shouldn't get side-tracked into this one at the moment.  I'm keeping an open mind on it though and hope to find some other facts to swing it, conclusively, one way or the other.
Here's the entry i have for her:
OPR Gargrave YKS 1558-1812 Transcr. by YKS Parish Reg Soc., 1907, p.233
chr. 10 Jun 1792 Jane d of  Wllm & Ann Chester, Conistone, YKS.   Conistone is between Gargrave & Nappa which is the place of birth she gives in her 1851 census.  Unfortunately, she confuses things by offering Gisburn as her birth place in her 1861.  Gisburn is on the other side of Nappa from Conistone.   

Joseph & Jane m.27 Nov 1810 St Mary Magdalene Clitheroe, LAN LDS IGI m033251
Why they were married there i have no idea, unless her family had moved there by then, or, perhaps Joseph was working there at the time
I haven't seen the film, unfortunately, so cannot confirm whether there are any other useful details to be gleaned.

I found this London Gazette piece which i suspect may be our Joseph in 1809.
LON GAZ, Issue 16217, 10 Jan 1809, pg.9, "This is to give notice, that the Partnerfhip fubfifting between us Jofeph Appleyard and John Walton, Cabinet-Makers, of Halifax, in the county of York, was this Day diffolved by mutual Confent.  All debts due to and owing by us the faid Firm will be received and paid by Jofeph Appleyard,  Witnefs our Hands this 9th Day of December 1808."  [signed] Jofeph Appleyard & John Walton.
It'd be interesting to discover if there was any kind of paper trail connected to this dissolution.   One day maybe! 

Thanks Rob, I appreciate your info and in fact it has added to what i had

le durachd
Fionnghal

[fionnghal]

ooops!   typo!   
One was Jane Chester's birth date and the other her christening date, i copy/pasted the wrong one.
Birth
Jane Appleyard [nee Chester], b. 17 Mar 1792 Conistone, Gargrave as per info from my late cousin.

Christening
chr. 10 Jun 1792 Jane d of  Wllm & Ann Chester, Conistone, YKS as per the Gargrave bapt. register

However, i do have more research to do on this family, and it;ll have to wait a bit as i've now committed myself to working on my Devon lot at the moment.  That'll take a bit of time but i'd hope to be back to working on the Appleyards some time next year.  I have been a bit neglectful of them of late.

le durachd
Fionnghal