hi, Hugh. nice to meet you

thanks for all those snippets. much appreciated

>I have a vague feeling that I have posted some APPLEYARD information before (somewhere!)
if you have, i havn't come across them before.
you might be right about this Wilfred being Adelaide's brother. unfortunately, i hardly new my grandmother as my parents separated when i was very young and i'm dependent on censuses &c forbye the sparse gleanings of a few family letters and what little i reall from a seldom mentioned subject. so i've no personal family insight to offer

i found Wilfred in hte 1881:
1881 census, 13 Westgate, Rotherham, York, YKS; Saints library 1342130 ;PRO ref: RG11; Piece/folio: 4671/4; p.1
Joseph APPLEYARD / head / m. / m / 32 / b. Conisbro, York / occ. Cabinet Manf., Upholsterer, Decorator Master employing 66 men, 20 boys and 10 women
Sarah APPLEYARD / wife / m. / f / 30 / b. March, CAM
Harry APPLEYARD / son /m / 4 / Rotherham York /
* Wilfred APPLEYARD / son / m / 3 / Rotherham York /
Edith Annie APPLEYARD / dau / f / 1 / Rotherham York /
Jane OUTRAM / Serv / u / f / 19 / Rawmarsh York / occ. general servant
i've conflicting death info for dad, Joseph:
Freebmd suggested:
Death - m1908 APPLEYARD, Joseph 60yrs; GRO Ecclesall B, vol 9c-276
but then i found a clipping in The Scotsman Archives for which i have a subscription .. if you'd like any lookups .. and it gives 10th February, 1909 and it's quite unequivocal about who they mean. you're welcome to the clipping if you wish .. once i've worked out how to post an attachment on htis site. there must be a way

just haven't needed to do it before.
I checked the PRO entry for 1908, but it was just as correct. but without a death certificate to back it up, there was no way of being sure it was mine. maybe htere were 2 Josephs the same age dying within a year of one another! they just seemed so coincidental.
White's Directory of Sheffield, Rotherham .. 1879,
Joseph Appleyard, , (j) cabinet maker, Dobbin Hill, Ecclesall ['j' = jun.]
John Appleyard, cabinet maker & upholsterer, 7 Union Lane; ls? 24 Mathilda st. [his home address?] a brother perhaps!
White's Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham, 1905 lists:
Joseph Appleyard, managing director, Appleyards Ltd, 6 Broomfield, 2 Newbould Lane Rotherham, Sheffield
Harry Appleyard, furniture manuf. [Johnstone & Appleyards Ltd., Oak House, Moorside, Dore ?? This is Joseph and Sarah Flint Stokes's son i'm sure.
there are also other Appleyard cabinet makers but i haven't found homes for them yet
Joseph A [b.c1848 Conisbro'] does have a brother Walter [i'd estimated him at b.c.1851. so you're probably right. there was also a Frank too [b.c.1855] but these are unproven gleanings. so i can't provide any paper confirmation .. not so far anyway. what did Walter do? i found one that was a confectioner in 1905 and hte other, more likely candidate, in 1881 cabinet maker for Johnson & Appleyard; personal address 12 Packer's Rd [Kelly's 1881 directory]. is that him? it'd be great to be able to fill in more details on him. + i found another Applewood death, the nearest to proving Frank so far, d.6 Aug 1928, retired cabinet maker; late of 3 Moncrieff Rd, Sheffield.
i came on 2 Walter Appleyards, but no idea if there is any connection. 1] Walter A d. 24 Jly 1930 late of Endcliffe Cr, Sheffield. no clues as to occ. or relatives.
2] Walter A inheriting from an Alfred Appleyard, a Leeds metal-broker, if that's of any use. I've got clippings of both these events.
Certainly, the Appleyard cabinet makers firm was producing plenty of money and were no doubt in a very influential position, so putting a family member in a good position to run for Council.
Any idea which regiment Wilfred Appleyard was in? I've found 2 men - one in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers 1900 and one in the East Surrey Reg. no mention of SA though. the E SRY Wilfred was in hte services spanning 1909-1923, so doesn't sound like our Wilfred if he returned to Sheffield in 1902 as in your notes... unless it was only temporary.
> 27 May 1902 Mr. Joseph Appleyard, jun., of Sheffield, drowned while boating on the Thames.
i wonder whose Joseph jnr this was. there must have been a few around.
> as listed in the 1891 census (do you have the information from that year?).
i don't and i'd really appreciate a copy if you don't mind.

Have you any idea who Joseph A [b.c.1819]'s wife was? - Joseph, Walter & Frank's parents - I have 2 candidates - Ann [Hannah] Tyas or Hannah Rushforth .. and htere could be more possiblities out there i know nothing of yet

if there are any clippings you'd like, i'll be happy to send you them.
thankyou very much for taking hte time to send your notes

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