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Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« Reply #9 on: Monday 11 June 12 01:04 BST (UK) »
This may be very out of date, but there certainly was a marriage between Helen Baillie Inglis (born Inverness 16 July 1799, daughter of George Inglis and Helen Alves) and George Hepburn.   Details of the marriage settlement are, or should be, in the Inverness museum, among the papers of Helen's father, George Inglis, latterly of Kingsmills, a Demerara planter, and former partner in St Vincent of two of the Alves brothers from Inverness and the financier George Baillie).  I have also see a New Zealand posting suggesting it was a runaway marriage - she was certainly very young.   You probably have all this by now, but just in case......

Allan,
I cannot believe this.  She certainly was the ONLY Helen that matched and I certainly couldn't find a death for her - so a second marriage in 1831 would make sense.  This presumably means that George and Helen divorced?  Her marriage to George took place when she was 14yrs of age - which matched the story that it was a runaway marriage - and the marriage entry had a 'blank' where her father's name should have been!!
Any further information would be gratefully received.  I will certainly investigate further.
Thanks  :)
Filleul/Le Brun/Ahier/Touzel/Falle/Le Moignan - Jersey, Channel Islands
Hepburn - Greenock, Scotland
Lyle - Greenock, Scotland; London England

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Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 June 12 01:07 BST (UK) »
Was George born in Inverness in 1792?
Dim ateb yn well nag ateb anghywir. Nid oes dim yn ddall fel rhai nad ydynt yn dymuno gweld

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Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 June 12 08:42 BST (UK) »
You may have this info already
http://www.inverclyde.gov.uk/community-life-and-leisure/libraries/local-and-family-history/family-history/intimations/
Intimations Surname Hasse to Hayman
download then search Hepburn
Page 158 of 169
Entry 1840 for Geo Hepburn d on board Highlander

Incidentally do you know if Geo had daughter Ruth?

See our prev enquiry re Duncan Hepburn marriage 1830

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Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 17 June 12 04:21 BST (UK) »
No sorry - George didn't have a daughter named Ruth.

Thanks for your interest.
Filleul/Le Brun/Ahier/Touzel/Falle/Le Moignan - Jersey, Channel Islands
Hepburn - Greenock, Scotland
Lyle - Greenock, Scotland; London England


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Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 17 June 12 04:24 BST (UK) »
Hi,
George is one of my brick walls - I have no idea where he was born  but I suspect it may have been Inverness or Renfrewshire.  After years of looking the only 'match' I can see at this stage is son of George HEPBURN and Agnes JAMESON.  Though nothing to prove it.
Certainly the name Agnes was never passed down to later generations.

Thanks for your interest....
Filleul/Le Brun/Ahier/Touzel/Falle/Le Moignan - Jersey, Channel Islands
Hepburn - Greenock, Scotland
Lyle - Greenock, Scotland; London England

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Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 June 12 05:37 BST (UK) »
Hi pamhi
just reading over your post
not sure if you have all this info thought I would post just in case

Family Search
George Hepburn married Helen Inglis 27th December 1813
Edinburgh Parish Midlothian,

George Hepburn married Elizabeth Jameson 9th April 1828 Inverness
and
12th April 1828 Greenock West or Old Parish,

as these are marriage Banns and not marriage certs,
the only info that will be on them are the Bride and Grooms details

as there are the two different dates the banns must have been read out
in the two different parishes because they have both belonged to different parishes,

children to George and Helen Inglis are,
George born 24th August 1815
William Inglis born 4th June 1817
Alexander born 10th December 1818
Mary Eliza born 5th Dec 1819
Emma born 11th Oct 1822
Susan born 31st Oct 1824
all Port Glasgow and Greenock

children to George Hepburn and Elizabeth Jameson
Elizabeth christening 19th July 1835
Charles christening 11th March 1837
both Greenock

at first I thought two different George's ?
then I found this 1841 census result

ELizabeth Hepburn born Inverness 1801
Mary Hepburn born  Inverness 1821
Susan Hepburn born Inverness 1825
Elizabeth Hepburn born Inverness 1835
Charles Hepburn born Inverness 1837
Catherine Jamson born Inverness 1816
there is also a Mary Brown and an
Ann McKay on the return too,
so possible that Helen Inglis Died prior to 1828
and Elizabeth has taken the family to Inverness
when George died in 1840
some of these names tie in with the intimation in the
Greenock Telegraph which olduser1 has posted the link to
the George Hepburn and Agnes Jamieson marriage 1786 Aberdeen is
a submitted entry and you would need to verify it.
Elaine





 

Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway.Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay,Steele,King,Allison

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Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« Reply #15 on: Monday 18 June 12 05:46 BST (UK) »
pamhi
1851 census
Elizabeth is back in Greenock with
Elizabeth, Charles,and Catherine Jamieson
Catherine now has an inital I as middle name,
there is also a Mary Grainger 30 and a James Duncan 64 with them
Elaine
Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway.Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay,Steele,King,Allison

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Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« Reply #16 on: Monday 18 June 12 05:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks hugely for your efforts.  Everything you mention below is correct. It is the same George.
Trying to establish George's parents - which is my major brick wall.
Also the whereabouts of sons William Inglis and Alexander.
Filleul/Le Brun/Ahier/Touzel/Falle/Le Moignan - Jersey, Channel Islands
Hepburn - Greenock, Scotland
Lyle - Greenock, Scotland; London England

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Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« Reply #17 on: Monday 18 June 12 06:54 BST (UK) »
pamhi
may just be coincidence but found these on family search
George Hepburn born 12th August 1784
Parents
William Hepburn and Stewart Duncan
just wondering if this could be your George as there is a 
James Hepburn born to the same family in 1787 which would be
the same birth year as the James Duncan who is with
Elizabeth on the 1851 census
Elaine
added;
the address on this census is 13 Clarence Street
Elizabeth is running a lodging house
James Duncan is a newfoundland merchant clerk

 
Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway.Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay,Steele,King,Allison