Heaffey-Mallow

[lifes too short]

Thanks Aghadowey, I was unable to see a copy of the entry other than there names. Did you have to pay to see a copy?

[aghadowey]

No. The scanned image of the page is free to view.

Type 'Heaffey' + 'John' into search box on 1st page and click 'search'.
Accept terms and conditions (click 'I accept' button).
Click on purple 'marriage' tab.
Click 'view' button under 'view record' column.
Double click on scanned image a few times until it stops enlarging then move down the page a bit until you see the corret entry.

[lifes too short]

Got it working,thanks. Needed to download something to view the image.

[Dimar]

Hi Lifes too Short

Gets more confusing with names the more you look doesn't it first name, middle name different spellings of surname! I will tell you what I know and it probably is what you also know.

I think the John W Heaffey who died in 1931 in St Pancras was my great grandfather. The father of Jack who died in 1927 aged 34.  My father was Arthur Benjamin Robert he was Jack's youngest son born 1/1/1920 he had an older brother born in 1915 also called Jack, both deceased so I can't ask them although I don't think they knew much as they were so young when they lost their father.

One of the reasons I'm sure John W is my grandfather is family history tells us that he outlived all his sons who all died young none lived beyond their  30's, and there were a few sons.  I also found Catherine's death in J-M 1934 aged 74 in St Pancras.  So their ages tie in with the Heaffey and Harper who married in Halifax Nova Scotia in 1876. 2 children were then born in Jamaica, William John and Albert and 1 Robert was born in Malta.  This does tie in with him being in the army and I think the profession you can't read on the marriage certificate says that he was a baker and confectioner in the Army Service Core.

As to whether he is the Heaffey born in 1847 in St Pancras it is likely but of course who knows as he sometimes puts Mallow or Westminster.  Don't really know where to go with this now.  He may have put Westminster because he thought it was and also boundaries and districts sometimes change. But he did die in st pancras.  Westminster and St Pancras are only about 4 miles apart. The religion is also confusing i always believed the family were catholic but the eldest son William John born in Jamaica indicates on his army records that he was not.

Heaffey is certainly a Mallow name if you google search Castlepooke murders you will get some interesting info but nothing that ties in with the family, but who knows!

I will keep you posted if i find anything else but like you may have reached the end of the line. 

[lifes too short]

Hi Dimar,

Yep it is confusing and I feel the only line left to follow is to order the birth certificate I mentioned, although looking at all the records again Im not betting on it being the correct John. Interestingly enough in 1901 there is a John Heaffey senior in St Josephs house which could be Johns father. I haven't been able to trace this John back for sure on previous censuses but there was a couple, John and Catherine but not around London. The copy of John and Catherine marriage certificate that I obtained (not an exact copy of the one on the Nova Scottia website) shows that he was a Bombardier in the Royal Artillery which ties in with the 1871 census where he was at Yaverland batterry. I also have a copy of Catherines death cerificate which states she was a widow of John William Heaffey. Nora Heaffey being the informant. I was tracing the Heaffey family on behalf of my husband whose grandfather was Victor David c1887 who died in 1925. That is another story but just to say he had a lot of children which span over a number of years sadly meaning there are few alive today. As you say very little is known in the family of the Heaffey history as most did die young although there are still some around London that must have connections. Victor was married in a Catholic church to Ada Wilson who was not Catholic. This wedding was witnessed by Catherine and Rober Heaffey so I think this would indicate at least Victor was of Catholic faith. If I make any progress I will post it here.

Clare

[norfolk lady]

I am researching the family tree of:
 Frank Edward Heaffey born 1919[/b] (Kensington,London) died 2009 - he was brought up a catholic but converted to Church of England so that he did not have to attend mass when he was fighting in the second world war. During the war he served in a canadian regiment. His family settled in Harrow, Middlesex. His father Victor died when he was about 6 years old.
 His mother was Ada Sarah Wilson and his father was Victor David Heaffey (born Kent) (died 1925). I was told that Frank's grandfather was  Sergeant Major in the Irish Army and was 6 feet 4inches tall but I do not have any information to confirm this just hearsay.
Victor (also known as Vista) David Heaffey's father was William John Heaffey from Mallaw, Ireland and I believe his wife was Katherine.
Does anyone have any information regarding William John Heaffey and the Heaffey family from Mallaw?
With thanks
Norfolk Lady

[Dimar]

Don't know if I can add anything of any substance here. We recently sent for John Williams death cert. In the hope it would give us exact date of birth and place of birth - it did neither. My sisters and I recently went to Cork to do some research we went to Mallow and Doneraile where there used to be Heaffey's although they spelt it Heaphy but is definitely the same name. There was a JW born/baptised in 1850 in Doneraile which could be him but we're struggling to prove the link. Doneraile was where David and Elizabeth Heaffey were from and in 1833 they were hung in Cork for the murder of 2 tithe collectors. I'ts known as the Castlepooke murders and we went to the library in Cork and read accounts of the trial in the newspapers of the time. However again we can't prove a link. We think our next step is to try and get JW's army records from the national archives at Kew. We have been told by our cousin that her father Jack told her that JW was cursed by a guy in a country maybe India for something he did to his daughter. The curse was that all his  sons would die young. JW outlived all his sons by a significant length of time. In the 1911 census his wife Catherine states she has given birth to 10 live children but only 3 are still alive they are Victor, your ancestor, Jack my grandfather who was the  youngest and a daughter Catherine. Would be good to take it all further back but its very difficult partly because its very difficult in Ireland. Hope some of this helps. Keep in touch.

[norfolk lady]

Thank you for your reply. I am sorry to say that Frank Edward Heaffey died in July 2009 , he knew very little about his family background other than something about his grandfather being in the Irish Army, but I have not been able to research this yet. Frank served in a canadian regiment in the second world war . He used to say he thought the family name was O'Heaffey and that they dropped the 'O' on arrival in England but again I am not sure if this is just hearsay. A few years ago I went to the USA and found some records there of Heaffey's entering the USA around the mid 1800s but at the time did not have enough information to know if there really was a family link or not. I would be interested to know more about the Castlepooke murders - any information would be of interest.
Kind regards
Norfolk Lady

[Dimar]

Certainly have never  come across O'Heaffey as a possibility before. JW I know was in the ASC which is the army service corp as were some of his sons. I don't know if this was linked in anyway to an Irish Regiment. As for the Castlepooke if you just google Castlepooke murders you'll get lots of information. When we read about it in newspapers of the time there was some suggestion that the wrong people had been hung - but who knows. We had a lot of negative response to the name in Cork as currently the family seem to be the local mafia! Although they spell it Heaphy. One taxi driver said he wouldn't have picked us up with that name and he wasn't joking! I think that like you my family had very little information about previous generations  my father was only 6 when his father died and his mother then remarried. I also don't think you will get very far with JW's wife Catherine Harper as she says she was born in Nova Scotia - I have tried. You can see the marriage certificate on line, it says how in previous correspondence. I'll keep you up to date on any developments but this maybe the end of the line. Di