1871 Census islington London Lookup request Winder

[jemwinder]

Hi People

Just starting out and would like to find a Frederick Winder born islington date unknown in the 1871 census

ive found him in the 1881 married to a Rosina Winder (nee Hobbs) aged 31  and she is aged 20  (i think that the 31 might be wrong)

In the 1891 they are both mentioned but Now Frederick winder (butcher) is 32 and rose is 31
in the 1901 census Rosina is 40 and Frederick is now 49 so it all seems very strange to me. rosina age seems fairly constant

Ive found a Frederick winder born in 1859 oct-dec in kings (which i take is Kings Cross) ive also found a Frederick winder born in 1852 so i hope this info will help someone find him for me

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many thanks

[Nicky]

Hi
Here is the marriage of Frederick and Rosina, a good idea may be to obtain a copy of the certificate, this would give his fathers name and if he was alive or dead when they married in 1881. This would give something else to research for the 1871 census. It would also hopefully give Fredericks age at  marriage.

 
Name Year Quarter District County Volume Page
 
HOBBS, Rosina Ragatha 1881 June Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex 3a 373
Winder, Frederick 1881 June Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex 3a 373

I have looked on the 1871 census and this is the only Frederick born Islington
Winder, Albert 4 Islington, London Son  Islington  London   
Winder, Edwin 8 Islington, London Son  Islington  London   
Winder, Frederick 32 Islington, London Head  Islington  London   
Winder, Frederick 9 Islington, London Son  Islington  London   
Winder, George 5 Islington, London Son  Islington  London   
Winder, Leonard 2 Islington, London Son  Islington  London   
Winder, Rose 31 Islington, London Wife  Islington  London 

     
Source information:    RG12/162
Registration district:    Islington 
Sub registration district:    Islington South West 
ED, institution, or vessel:    62a 
Folio:    120 
Page:    53

This is bit is interesting and indicates that it could be the correct family, Frederick the father is listed as a Journeyman Butcher.

I will send you the image.

Nicky

[Nicky]

sorry that was the 1891 census NOT 1871

[Nicky]

I have found this family and this is definitely 1871!!! transcribed as Winter but looking at original which I will send you looks more like WInder.

Annie Winter 40  Somers Town, Middlesex, England Daughter  Islington St Mary  London   
Frederick Winter 13  Islington, Middlesex, England Son  Islington St Mary  London   
James Winter 16  Islington, Middlesex, England Son  Islington St Mary  London   
Louisa Winter 24  Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter  Islington St Mary  London   
Sarah Winter 52  Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Head  Islington St Mary  London   
Thomas Winter 20  Islington, Middlesex, England Son  Islington St Mary  London 
Source information:    RG10/288
Registration district:    Islington 
Sub-registration district:    Islington East 
ED, institution, or vessel:    26 
Folio:    28 
Page:    49
Household schedule number:    316

Nicky

[jemwinder]

Dear Nicky

Many Thanks for the help

I did find a few winters as well, but decided that they could not be, but i think you are right.

Since the amount of typing errors ive found in the census records i will be liberal minded in the future

again many thanks

Jeremy

[PAM56]

Hi Jem

Have just looked at my Winder file and found that John Winder also called one of his daughters Rosina, maybe a co-incidence but quite unusual name so may reinforce the theory that the famiy is connected in some way.

Pam