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British soldier in Halifax, Nova Scotia 1882
« on: Friday 23 December 05 03:39 GMT (UK) »
Hello Everyone,
According to the marriage registration, when my ancestor, John Brown (b abt 1858 Southwick, Co Durham) married Mary Napier (b abt 1863 Halifax) in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada on 16th July 1882 his occupation was shown as "Soldier".  Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how I can find out which regiment he was with or any other info that may be available about his military service.
I have found a possible entry in the UK 1881 census (RG11/1325/123/8) which shows a John Brown (b abt 1859 Sunderland, Co Durham) as a private with the 1st Bn Grenadier Guards, stationed at Victoria Barracks in Windsor, Berkshire).  Was that regiment in Canada about a year later?

Thanks,

Douglas,
Queanbeyan, Australia
Researching:
Co Durham: Brown, Cole, Cunningham, Hatch, Ramsay
Essex: Young
London: Guy, Young
Berkshire: Mattingly, Bushnell
Northumberland: Brown, Cairns
Dumfriesshire: Cairns, Thomson, Carruthers, Hogg
Lanarkshire: Cairns
Hampshire: Bushel, Bushell
Australia: Forrester, Keller, Smith, Price, Murphy, Read


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Re: British soldier in Halifax, Nova Scotia 1882
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 December 05 04:01 GMT (UK) »


Hi Doug!

This is the movements of 1st Bn Grenadier Guards .... doesn't look like they were in Canada in 1882 but he could have moved to another regiment!!

1861.12   Canada: Montreal   
    1861.12   Trent Affair: Montreal   
    1862   Canada: Montreal   
    1864   England   
    1877   1st Battalion, Grenadier Guards
1881    London: Chelsea   
1882   Ireland: Dublin   
    1885    England: Windsor   
    1889    London: Tower   
    1892   London: Chelsea   
    1894   London: Wellington Barracks   
    1897   London: Tower   
    1897.09   Gibraltar   
    1898.09   Egypt   
    1898.09   Sudan   
    1898.10    England: Windsor   
    1901   London: Wellington Barracks   
    1903    London: Chelsea   
    1905   London: Tower   
    1907    London: Wellington Barracks   
    1908   Aldershot   
    1910    London: Wellington Barracks   
    1911    London: Chelsea   
    1912   Aldershot   
    1914   Warley   
    1914.10   France and Flanders   7 Div
    1915.08   France and Flanders   Gds Div
    1919    London: Tower

Nor the 2nd Battalion ...... !!

1877   2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards
    1881    England: Windsor   
    1882   Egypt   Duke of Connaught Bde
    1884   London: Tower   
    1885   London: Chelsea   
       

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Re: British soldier in Halifax, Nova Scotia 1882
« Reply #2 on: Friday 23 December 05 07:54 GMT (UK) »
douglas,the guards dont do garrison duties overseas,they only go abroad in times of major conflict,they are the monarchs bodyguard,but if the king was touring canada at the time,then he would have a detatchment of the guards with him,mack
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Re: British soldier in Halifax, Nova Scotia 1882
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 December 05 02:10 GMT (UK) »


Hi Doug!!

The Guards hold copies of nearly all their service records. If you contact the Grenadier Guards archives at Wellington Barracks or can arrange a visit ( a little difficult from where you are though ..... !) or request copies -  they can provide attestation papers and possibly correspondence. Phone no. 020 7414 3221

Try it and see!!  :)

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Re: British soldier in Halifax, Nova Scotia 1882
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 December 05 00:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to Annie & Mack for your help. I'll find the address for Wellington Barracks and write to them.

Doug
Researching:
Co Durham: Brown, Cole, Cunningham, Hatch, Ramsay
Essex: Young
London: Guy, Young
Berkshire: Mattingly, Bushnell
Northumberland: Brown, Cairns
Dumfriesshire: Cairns, Thomson, Carruthers, Hogg
Lanarkshire: Cairns
Hampshire: Bushel, Bushell
Australia: Forrester, Keller, Smith, Price, Murphy, Read


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Re: British soldier in Halifax, Nova Scotia 1882
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 December 05 02:22 GMT (UK) »


Guards Museum
Wellington Barracks, Birdcage Walk, Westminster,  SW1E 6HQ

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Re: British soldier in Halifax, Nova Scotia 1882
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 December 05 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Douglas,
Readwith interest your posting.
My g.grandmother was born in Halifax, Nova Scotia to a serving member of the Rifle Brigade and his wife in 1842.
Somewhere I have a reference to the regiments that were stationed in Nova Scotia for the whole period of the British garrison at the Citadel. Will try to find them for you.
Brian
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Re: British soldier in Halifax, Nova Scotia 1882
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 December 05 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Annie, thanks for the address. Much appreciated.

Brian, thanks for your reply.  Any help would be appreciated.  I can't say for certain which regiment he served with. The 1881 census entry is only a possible based on the similarities of name, place and year of birth.  His second child, John, was born in abt 1885 in Southwick, Co Durham so I imagine he was back in "Civvie Street" by then (he certainly was in December 1886 when his third child was born in Cowpen, Northumberland).

Doug
Researching:
Co Durham: Brown, Cole, Cunningham, Hatch, Ramsay
Essex: Young
London: Guy, Young
Berkshire: Mattingly, Bushnell
Northumberland: Brown, Cairns
Dumfriesshire: Cairns, Thomson, Carruthers, Hogg
Lanarkshire: Cairns
Hampshire: Bushel, Bushell
Australia: Forrester, Keller, Smith, Price, Murphy, Read


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Re: British soldier in Halifax, Nova Scotia 1882
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 December 05 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Doug,

Try this website
www.rootsweb.com/~canns/ns-armylist.doc

It gives all regiments stationed in Nova Scotia by year.
Hope you find what your looking for.

Brian
Arnold ( Lancs ). Gordon ( Lancs, Scotland ). Dowling. ( Ireland, England, Massachusetts, Australia, Buenos Aires ) Pugh ( Pew) ( Cheshire & Lancs). Cordial ( Ireland )