Some amazingly well researched trees

[Pegasuss]

M.

"my pc area is starting to look like a command center "

Only 'Starting to Look Like'! You need More Practice!

Mine is (sometimes) looking like a newHounds Office (After a Bomb has Hit It!)

[cando]

Hi all

Off again on a tangent but what do you think about this -

"Good friend of the family" - I have never met this person, has placed some of my family history on her website.  Found the site about three or four years ago but as it didn't have very much info and much of it 'guess work' I dismissed it.  However last year I decided to email this person and perhaps find out where she fitted it.  Turns out she was doing the site for the daughter of my dad's cousin.  The relative has informed me genealogy is not one of her interests

The site is full of copy and paste from directories, family history sites and free bdm. A great deal of the info is not connected to my family.  A little annoyed to find that responses to my requests on forums, have also been copied and pasted.  I note that the copied census returns have been removed.

I have informed this person that I strongly object to her detailing the area in which my 96 year old dad, my 90 year old uncle, my cousin and myself and our families reside.  We live in a remote area of Australia and I have had numerous comments about this website as it names the locality.

She has not responded to my query - why doesn't she detail the 'cousin's family'?

Perhaps I would not object so strongly if the information was correct.  I have detailed the errors on the site and to date nothing has been corrected.  So we now have lists of possible convicts, possible felons and other possible emigrants with our family name.  Watch - if you have my family name you may end up as named on this website. 

So b....... frustrating.  I fail to understand why the website exists at all.

I note this am that the link has been removed from this person's blog page but the web page comes up if you search the family name and then 'google'.

Cheers
Cando    but at the moment feel I can't

[cornishpasty]

What an interesting topic.  I learnt a few things and I had many laughs.    What a hoot !!  Thanks everyone.

Allycat -

I read that article about Silent Voices and I was deeply touched and also very interested to learn more.  I am writing a  book (which I hope will be inspirational) and  I am trying to find information about why the nuns were so cruel.  I knew it had something to do with their reasons for being pushed into convent life, because not many of them were really there of their own accord, no vocation, as such.  Thank you for that article and if you come across anymore I would be eternally grateful.

CP

[goggy]

Well,Iv'e read through all the post,s,and admit to being a hunter/gatherer,"Google' dependant name collector,and a drain on "Rootschat" resource,s.
I make no apology for this,my confuser was bought 2002,a year was spent in wonder/cyberspace.
Family history site,s were disembowelled for reliability,and all found wanting.
One G'Mother was decided upon as my sole faltering excursion into the Genealogical jungle.No idea of where or when born,marriage date,etc;one piece of fact to work from,a street in Waterford Ireland,my Mother,s birth cert;Father,s name and occupation,no witnesses,no sponsor,s AND NO HOUSE NUMBER!!But,
I did have her surname,YOICK,S,Tally ho,whatever you may say.
So began my avowed admission(,not yet completed in her favour).Then,tackle the prob from another angle,right?So on and so on and pillickin'so forth!!
Six notebook,s of the two name,s in my S.I.T and who  know,s?One day the key will be given inot earned.
             Alway,s using peripheral vision.
                     Goggy.

[MrsLizzy]

I am trying to find information about why the nuns were so cruel.  CP

My ex sister in law was educated by nuns - although she didn't say a great deal about it, she did tell me about some quite unacceptable behaviour by the nuns - including verbal and physical abuse.  I've heard of some cases where nuns who weren't "children people" were made to work with children as a kind of long term penance - a sort of - "great, let's make you spend your life doing something you hate, it should be really good for your character/soul". 

On the other hand, my sister in law did want to send her only child to a convent school which had a reputation for giving the children a really good education.  My brother wouldn't agree because he didn't want his daughter indoctrinated with Catholicism.  I don't often find myself agreeing with both sides in an argument but I could see both points of view in this case.  My brother thought if his daughter was intelligent (which she is) she would do just as well at any school - with which I disagree quite strongly!

[cornishpasty]

I've heard of some cases where nuns who weren't "children people" were made to work with children as a kind of long term penance - a sort of - "great, let's make you spend your life doing something you hate, it should be really good for your character/soul". 


Hi MrsLizzy,

I think this might now be considered "Off Topic";  maybe I should start a new topic on this subject but I'm not sure the Moderators would allow that.  I don't wish to start a "religious war".   LOL

I am very aware of the cruelty in all forms because I was at the receiving end myself.  My aim in writing this book is to give the reader some rational explanation as to why the harsh methods of discipline and control were used.  Many people cannot comprehend that these atrocities were allowed to happen and continue for many years, undetected.  Many are still asking "why were they so cruel?".   It all boils down to the Mission and Ministry of that particular Order of Nuns, which documents that "our belief in the dignity and sacredness of life ensures the use of "natural means" to protect that life".

As a victim and the author of this book I need to present an unbiaised view and believe me, it's not an easy task. 

I would be grateful if anyone would like to share their thoughts on this subject, bearing in mind that I am only looking for logical explanations.  I do not wish to start a "Holy War".

My Genealogy, of course, always remains my No. 1 Priority.

Hugs
CP   

[jinks]

Cando

I found some of my living relatives on a website

(Great Website actually) all information the same as mine
except more than I had , I have helped the gentleman concerned I hope with more information
but I asked politely if my Great Aunt could just be
listed as - living.


He kindly obliged so why do you not mention this
option.

i.e. No details of the area etc.

Jinks

[Pegasuss]

I was contacted by a 2nd Cousin (through an old email addy that I used to register on a Site when I first went online Many Years Ago!).

Good job I had Forgotten to Delete the old addy, I would Never have been able to find this Cousin (Bn: South Africa, Married: South Africa, Now Living in USA!)

[Janice M]

I couldn’t resist adding some experiences of my own.

One lady told me one day she had found information on my family from Glasgow. She then gave me a link to a site that mentioned “John Elder Shipping”.  I thanked her, and explained to her that I had no connection to that family, even though my grandfather’s name was “John Elder”. As she seemed a little confused about why I would dismiss this so quickly, I had to explain to her that my grandfather lived in Glasgow alright, but was a labourer living in a tenement, and not a shipping magnet.

Another person told me that they met a “Baskerville” once, (my maiden name.) and that he was one of the nicest people you could ever meet. I didn’t really know what that had to do with my family history, but…. I thanked her anyway.

I have had people ask me why their relatives arrived in Canada when they wanted to live in the U.S. (How do you answer that?) I tried to think of reasons, proximity to destination, and/or price of ticket… I don’t think they liked the answers, but I honestly don’t know what was going through the mind of their relative. 

I have had one person tell me their relative moved to Toronto, Ontario, proceeded to tell me their name and then asked if I had ever heard of them. I had to explain very nicely, that I hadn’t met everyone yet.

My favourite email was a woman who asked for some help in solving her family mystery (not history, because she apparently knew that). She had tried on numerous occasions to find links to her family in Scotland, but couldn’t make any connections. Although I can’t remember the name off hand, it was a name like Coll. She explained that even though most of the information that was found was in the name Mac/Mc Coll that they couldn’t be of her family, as she originates from the “original” Coll clan and not one of the “sons of”. What puzzles me most is… how old is she?

Could there be “Royals” in my line?  Maybe!  I have certainly found enough “illegitimate” births. Surely, at least one could have been a roaming Royal. (More than likely, it would have been the Coachman’s second cousin twice removed.)

As far as researching on the Internet, I have no choice, as I research relatives overseas from Canada. I have always liked using sites like Scotlands People, Freebmd, or Ancestry, (where I can check the actual copy). Although the LDS site is a great help, people should always remember to check the actual copies. (Never take a person’s “uploaded” family history as being the real thing).

One of the great things that has transpired on the Internet for subjects such as Family History, is this site. We can post questions to others that may be able to find the answers, or at least give us good advice on what to try next.

Let’s not knock the Internet too much, as every one of us is using it to help us with our family histories. How we use the information we find, is what makes the difference. I have been fortunate in finding a few relatives online, that I never would have found otherwise.

Here is a perfect example of what the internet can do,
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,101535.0.html

Janice