DORNEY in Waterford

[Jill Dorney]

Searching for any information on Dorney family.
Only info. I have is from UK census 1881
Augustine Dorney aged 43 (born abt 1838)
Birthplace~ Waterford. Ireland.
Occupation~ Musician
He emmigrated to England before 1865
I would be most grateful for any help
Jill Dorney

[Nicky]

Hi
This is the full 1881 census

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  Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Augustine DORNEY   Head   M   Male   43   Waterford, Ireland   Musical Artist (Muscian)     
 Ellen DORNEY   Wife   M   Female   33   Portsmouth   Musical Artists Wife     
 Joseph DORNEY   Son   U   Male   16   Portsmouth   Musical Artists Son     
 Augustine DORNEY   Son   U   Male   14   Southampton   Musical Artists Son     
 Bernard DORNEY   Son   U   Male   7   Sheffield   Musical Artists Son     
 Thomas DORNEY   Son   U   Male   3   Liverpool   Musical Artists Son     
 Isabel DORNEY   Daughter   U   Female   13   Norwich   Artists Daughter     
 Evaline DORNEY   Daughter   U   Female   9   Sheffield   Artists Daughter     


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Source Information:
  Dwelling   23 Stamford St
  Census Place Leeds, York, England
  Family History Library Film   1342084
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   4517 / 139
  Page Number   2
 
I will see if i can find the family in 1871, 1891 and 1901 and post any findings

Nicky

[Nicky]

these are some births for the children

Births Mar 1866
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DORNEY  Augustin     S Stoneham  2c 51

Births Mar 1868
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DORNEY  Isabel Ellen     Norwich  4b 154

Births Mar 1872
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Dorney  Eveline     Sheffield  9c 422

Births Sep 1873
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Dorney  Bernard     Sheffield  9c 442

Births Jun 1877
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DORNEY  Thomas Francis     Liverpool  8b 189


I have looked on the 1871 and I would presume from the dob of the children that they would of been in Sheffield, will keep looking.

Hope these help you

Nicky

[kated]

Hi Jill,

If you want to look for Augustine in Waterford, you need to have a better idea of the townland. Can you look for his marriage certificate? It looks like he was married in England. This will give his father's name and possibly an Irish address either of which would help the search.

Regards

Kate
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[Jill Dorney]

Many thanks to everyone who has replied to my plea.
The biggest problem I am having is that Dorney is transcribed in many different ways, so although I know them to be alive at certain times I can't find them.
Augustine b. abt 1838 married Ellen Spence. She was born abt 1848 in Portsmouth. I can't find a marriage for them but their first child was also born there.
I have collected birth certificates for Bernard, Isabel and Eveline but can't find them in 1891 census.
I found Bernard in 1891 census as Downey in lodgings in Liverpool.
Ellen Spence/Dorney died in Liverpool in 1889 and her husband was still alive then according to her death certificate.
Please keep looking
Jill

[Jill Dorney]

UPDATE
After almost giving up on tracing the Dorneys in Waterford I have managed to find a baptism for Augustine dorney on the Waterford Heritage website. as this was the only baptism for an Augustine I think I may have hit the jackpot.
Date of baptism - 16 October 1837
Parish - Trinity Within (Cathedral)
Father - Edmund
Mother - Eleanor Britt
Sponsors - Patrick O'Connor and Bridget Darcy

Only problem - On his marriage certificate fathers name is  given as Edward!!

I am posting this update in the hope that someone could tell me if this could be an error in transcription or may recognise the names of his mother or sponsors.

Eternally hopeful, Jill

[shanew147]

I've seen Edmond and Edward as interchangeable.

The two are also both very similar looking in Latin, which is often used in RC records - Eadmundus and Eadwardus



Shane

[Jill Dorney]

Thank you Shane I was hoping that was the case.

I know there were several Dorneys in the area but the Edmund and Eleanor threw me
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On Augustines' marriage certificate in 1861 fathers name was Edward Dorney (deceased) a draper.
Slaters directory 1856 has an Edward Dorney as a clothes dealer.
1877 Waterford Almanack and Directory has Ellen Dorney, clothes dealer at 17 Patrick St.(Edward would presumably be dead)
1894 Egan Directory had E Dorney - haberdasher.
I feel sure these were the parents

I now need to find out if Eleanor and Ellen are the same person and if there is anyone searching for the Britt family. I would also love to know if there were any other children.

Jill

[taramcdsmall]

Is this possibly Ellen Britt Dorney ?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_No__1_Urban/Patrick_Street/1760975/

Still at Patrick Street, Waterford.

If so then it says that she was originally born in County Tipperary.

If you think so then Anne Manahan is Anne Britt sister to your Augustine. Note Anne (Britt's) second son is called Edward - usually a tradition to name the second son after the wife's father. Another son is also a draper (which you said was the family occupation at one point).

Tara