1851 look up

[normamac]

Hi Thor,

Are you sure that they were married in the 1851 census?

Address: Main Street, Cumbernauld  Dumbartonshire

McNaughton Peter Head age 24 born Silco County Ireland
McNaughton Bridget age24 wife
Martimar Martin Lodger age21
Benson James Lodger age 22 unmarried born 1829
Termon Peter Lodger age 20

They all had the same birth place but as you know that is not always correct.
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[sancti]

1841 census

All Bensons born outside county

Thomas McWhity 25
Jeane McWhity 35
William McWhity 5
Peter Benson 30 Occupation: Copper M
Margrate Benson 25
James Benson 10
John Benson 9
Thomas Benson 5
William Benson 1

Address: Duggate Street Glasgow


1851 census for James' wife and son

John White 31
Charlotte White 34
Thomas White 8
Charlotte White 6
John White 3
William White 8 MO
Jean Benson 19 lodger  born: New Monkland, Lanarkshire
Peter Benson 9 MO lodger  born: Old Monkland, Lanarkshire

 Address: Steelend Saline Fife
 
 

 
 

[sancti]

OPR BAPTISM and marriage

02/04/1854 BENSON MARGARET daur of JAMES BENSON and JEAN ARMSTRONG at  OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

27/08/1850 BENSON JAMES and JANE ARMSTRONG at OLD MONKLAND OR COATBRIDGE /LANARK

[chuzzle]

Hi All who have replied since I revived this stream a few days ago.
I will try to comment on a few things across several replies:
Distant relatives first-Thor.
My wife Gill is the daughter of a Barbara Fogden, who was in turn the daughter of Vera Benson, who was the daughter of John Thomas Benson a tobacconist in Oxford.  He was the youngest son of James Benson, much discussed in this stream.  He was one of only two children born in England Staffs, where James had gone to work as a miner-he died 6 mths before the birth.  So James is my wife' Great, Great Grandfather. JT's "10" siblings were James, Isabella, Mary, Margaret, Alice, James, Charlotte, Peter, Alexander and Jessie.
Jane Armstrong has been hard to track down-possibly because of the interchangeable Jean/Jane noted by Sancti.
The 1841 census I had seen and I think the James Benson lodging on his own in 1851-despite marriage the year before does not surprise-I had found that as well-it is interesting that it is with an Irish family and in a mining area.  James became a miner and his father Peter was from Ireland-in that other than some suggestions that Benson/Irving was common in Belfast/Shankill-we have no idea which bit, then maybe there was a connection to Sligo?.
I don't think the 1851 census for Jean/Jane is right.  there is no way they had a 9yr old son and I think there is evidence that Jane came from old Benson home area of Galloway-Near to Gatehouse of Fleet-Blackcraig?.  To many Armstrongs and limited birth/census records mean that I am not sure I have properly tracked her down in 1841 as yet.
Cheers
Chuzzle

[chuzzle]

Sorry just noted a typo-For the second James sibling please read Jane.

Obviously all the rest born in Old Monklands.

Apart from deadend around peter benson in Ireland and his parents James(a field labourer) and sarah irving, I have also hit a dead end with Jane/jean armstrong(though she may be working as a servant in troqueer, galloway in 1851? and also margaret carson.  Again bags of carsons in Galloway and in the absence of census info it has been hard to track down her parents of william carson(saddler) and Sarah Clyne?

Very interested in these as we now live in Dumfries & Galloway so by accident have ended up close to some of my wife's ancestors.

Cheers

Chuzzle

[sancti]

Chuzzle in the 1851 census James is 9 MO i.e. 9 Months

[chuzzle]

Hmmmm,

I should learn to read-that is a bit more doable.

I guess you mean peter and not james?

Peter fits, but.....

I am still concerned that she is the right one though-mostly cos the 1861 census has her with a ditto under her hubby's "gallowayshire" birth place but then "Blackcraig" rather than Gatehouse.  This seems very detailed to be wong and clashes with the New Monkland birth place of 1851's Jean Benson.

More research I think

Chuzzle

[sancti]

Sorry for the confusion with James/Peter, I was looking at the 1850 BAPTISM for James who would have been 9 months old at the 1851 census. There are strong links between Lanarkshire and Fife due to mining.

As you are aware the birthplaces given on census records are not always accurate

[thor]

Hi chuzzle...the entry for jane/jean 1851 and baby peter is correct she was visiting her friend charlotte white...I tracked charlotte through the marriages and  she was from old monkland...

Jane/jean was from the blackcraig area...I seem to remember seeing her on 1841 census working as a servant but its been a while since I've looked at this..

Margaret was born in gatehouse in the parish of fleet...this is on her marriage certificate ..the information on her parents came from her death certificate as she died in that magic year 1855 when they recorded everything they could think of