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John Paine SARGENT 1861, 1871
« on: Friday 16 December 05 08:36 GMT (UK) »
John Paine SARGENT 1799-1884 was a CofE priest, born Ireland.

According to clergy lists, he held curacies in London 1852-73  and I have the following addresses:
1858  7 Bentinck Terrace, Regent’s Park, London
1865  7 Edward’s Terrace, Victoria Park
1872  9 Angela Gardens, Columbia Market, Bethnal Green

Is it possible to find him with his family in 1861 and 1871 ? (I have found most of the family in 1881).

His wife was Rachel, and their children included Henry John (c1833), Forbes, George, Arthur, Charlotte Georgiana (c1841), Elizabeth Lily (c1843?), Ellinor (c1848),Emma Beresford (c1849) (most if not all, born in Ireland). Emma was my 2xGt Grandmother.

Thanks for any help!

Hugh in Sheffield  :)
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Re: John Paine SARGENT 1861, 1871
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 December 05 08:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Hugh,

1871
RG10/476 16 30
St Matthew Bethnal Green, London
9 Angela Gardens

Sarah Gittins, head, wid, 69, b. Shoreditch
Sarah, dau, unm, 37, Collar stitcher by machine, b. do.
John, son, unm, 28, Angraver on copper brass, b. Finsbury
John Paine Sargent, lodger, mar, 70, Clergyman Church England, b. Dublin Ireland
 
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Re: John Paine SARGENT 1861, 1871
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 December 05 08:50 GMT (UK) »
1861
RG9/88 32 56
St Marylebone, Mddx
5,6,7 Bentek Terr
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John P Sargent, head, 60, Clergyman Principle of Institute for military education, b. Ireland
Rachael N, wife, 50, b. do.
Henry J, son, unm, 27, Curate Hampstead Partner & Tutor (+sthg I can't read), b. do.
Rachael N, dau, unm, 24, b. do.
Charlotte G, dau, unm, 21, Discrict? visitor, b. do.
James F, son, 17, scholar, b. do.
Elizabeth F, dau, 18, b. do.
George R, son, 11, scholar, b. do.
Arthur F, son, 8, b. do.
Henry P Knapton, partner, 27, Curate of St Michael Strand - Partner & turor of institute, b. Mddx London
+ 9 pupils and 4 servants

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Re: John Paine SARGENT 1861, 1871
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 December 05 09:00 GMT (UK) »
Here's the rest of family in 1871
RG10/193 46 20
St Johns Hampstead
32 Bel Pk Gar

Henry Sargent, head, unm, 37, Curate St Peters Balsize? Park, b. Ireland Dublin
Rachel, mother, mar, 60, b. Ballyporeen? Ireland
Charlotte, sister, unm, 31, b. Ireland Dublin
Eliza, dau, unm, 28, b. do.
Emma, sister, unm, 22, b. do.
George, brother, unm, 21, Clerk in Bank, b. do.
Arthur, brother, 18, Student in medicine, b. Mddx Marylebone
+ 4 pupils and 3 servants

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Re: John Paine SARGENT 1861, 1871
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 December 05 09:04 GMT (UK) »
In 1861, there is at 4 Upper Lansdowne Terrace, St Mary Abbotts Kensington, a 'ladies school': 
RG9/19 40 34
Eleanor W Sargent, pupil, 14, scholar, b. Ireland Dublin
Emma B do, pupil, 12, scholar, b. do.
 
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Re: John Paine SARGENT 1861, 1871
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 December 05 09:25 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D :D
Fantastic!
Tanja, thank you so much for these.

So many delicious new questions. Such as, why are three clergymen running a school for military education?!  :o

Thanks again,
Hugh

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Re: John Paine SARGENT 1861, 1871
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 December 05 10:25 GMT (UK) »
So many delicious new questions. Such as, why are three clergymen running a school for military education?!  :o

 ;D Yes, puzzling. It does seem to say military though. In 1861, all the pupils are just down as plain 'scholars'. In 1871, we have the details:
1. Student for Oxford
2. Student for Indian C Service
3. Student for Army
4. Student for Indian C Service

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Re: John Paine SARGENT 1861, 1871
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 June 09 10:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Hugh

I note your connection to the Sargent family.  My great great grandfather's first cousin, Mary Elizabeth Cooper, daughter of General Alfred Cooper, married James Forbes Sargent, son of John Paine Sargent, in India in 1869.  I am trying to trace the descendants of James and Mary and wondered if you could help me here.  I have a few details of their children and could pass those on if you are interested.

Thanks and regards


Gary Kent
Canberra, Australia