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Shipwrights - masters and apprentices working with Samuel Stanton
« on: Sunday 11 December 05 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Samuel Stanton, b. 1753 (London, Surrey?) was a member of the shipwright's company, I thought I'd include some info on people related to his career in case anybody was related:

He was apprenticed to John Burden, 13 Oct 1767, turned over to Robert Wells, 30 Jul 1771, free 20 Nov 1776, Christ Church, Surrey.

His apprentices were:


1 Feb 1781, Thomas Preston (Younger), son of Thomas of Rotherhithe, Sh. Free 26 Feb 1789.
30 Oct 1798, Thomas Joseph, son of Thomas of Christ Church, Surrey, iron founder, free 29 Nov 1804, Narrow Wall, Lambeth.
28 Mar 1799, Edward William James, free 26 Feb 1807
25 Sep 1800, Thomas Wyley Bartlett, free 26 Nov 1807, Water Lane, Dockhead, Bermondsey
April 1801, John Hubbard, free 30 Jun 1808, Shad. Thames.
Sep 1806, John Marshall, free 30 Sep 1813, Bermondsey Levell.

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Re: Shipwrights - masters and apprentices working with Samuel Stanton
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 January 06 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Very interested in your query re Samuel Stanton, my direct ancestor Lewis Preston of Rotherhithe married an Elizabeth Stanton c. 1750. She was daughter of Thomas Stanton who was a timber merchant.
  I cannot make connection with shipwright Thomas Preston but there is probably one there,the co-incidence is too great.

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Re: Shipwrights - masters and apprentices working with Samuel Stanton
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 January 06 16:36 GMT (UK) »
There is a book of all those mentioned in the Shipwrights records in the LMA and also in Guildhall (where the remaining original records are kept), 'Records of the Shipwrights' Company' by C. H. Ridge (two volumes).  I wonder if you emailed either LMA or Guildhall Library if they'd take a look for some Prestons?

Timber merchant was probably an occupation strongly linked to shipbuilding, so I wouldn't be surprised if you were right about the connection.  Incidentally documentsonline at the National Archives shows a Lewis Preston, shipwright of Saint Mary Rotherhithe, will dated 1770.  Yours?

(Father of my Samuel was James, a fisherman, and his mother might have been Ann.  I do not know who his siblings were, if any. They were, I believe, probably from Christ Church/Southwark areas in Surrey.)
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Re: Shipwrights - masters and apprentices working with Samuel Stanton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 February 06 11:12 GMT (UK) »
 Many thanks for your further info. I am at present researching Prestons in Rotherhithe, as you probably know it was a major port in the 18th century and there were scores of Prestons living there, also many Roshers, maybe also Stantions.
  I had found the will and among three pages of legal verbiage it did confirm my Stanton who was obviously relatively wealthy as it talks about properties he had given Lewis Preston. Elizabeth Stanton's sister married a Rosher, also a timber merchant.
  I am away for a couple of weeks, so expect silence but I am going to London in March and will visit the LMA.and will let you know if I find anything interesting.


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Re: Shipwrights - masters and apprentices working with Samuel Stanton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 February 06 20:21 GMT (UK) »
On  minor point - it was possible to be a "Master Shipwright" and not necessarily a member of the Shipwrights Company, certainly by c.1850.  I'm not sure when the monopoly began to slip.  One family member was a Shipwright, free of the Merchant Taylors, with a Draper's Company charity apprenticeship.  It certainly confused me for some years.

There are certainly Rutherford shipwrights in the Rotherhithe/Deptford area in the 18thC, but we've yet to track Guild membership.  I believe it may be something to do with training elsewhere in the UK.

The Guildhall Library, and presumably the LMA, has a complete record of all the Freedoms of the City (which usually follow from the freedom of the various companies) on microfiche.

Regards for now.

Simon
Rutherford, Brook, Broughton, Culpitt/Copeland, McNamara,  Smith, Waddell (Bermondsey, Deptford, Limehouse, Poplar) Barnes (Newport, Llandybie), Pope (Newport, South Hams/Devon), Barrett (Newport), Sheppard (Newport, Bristol & Birmingham), Brain (Bristol, Cardiff), Flook (Newport & Bristol), Lewis (Llangorse) Peuss (London 1860)
The Pope family masons/builders, Pill Newport,
Newport Market (Barrett, Sheppard, Flook)
Deptford, Limehouse & Poplar Shipwrights
Mingay & Sandall (Norfolk)

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Re: Shipwrights - masters and apprentices working with Samuel Stanton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 March 12 20:26 BST (UK) »
I know this is an old post but I am seeking information about Lewis Preston whose son Thomas Wilkinson Preston was apprentice to Jeremiah Rosher in 1770. He, Thomas became master of the Carpenters Company in 1804. I also want to confirm this Lewis married Elizabeth Stanton.