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1881 lookup thanx u guys complete
« on: Thursday 08 December 05 10:52 GMT (UK) »
has anyone got sight of the original transcripts?  There,s a very puzzling name DUIMA Cropper at 6 Church Road with husband Samuel and children. Can't find her on the 1901 she may have died.  thank you

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Re: 1881 lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 December 05 11:26 GMT (UK) »
has anyone got sight of the original transcripts?  There,s a very puzzling name DUIMA Cropper at 6 Church Road with husband Samuel and children. Can't find her on the 1901 she may have died.  thank you
I can't find any croppers at 6 church rd Hackney, but there is a big cropper family at no 46
samuel, 47, "american merchant" from nottingham
it sort of looks Duemia??36
plus kids horace (arcitect), digby, samuel(both merchant clerks), duemia,ada, beatrice, agenes and servant ellen

pm me for more details-you might want to snip a bit of the original image and post in the common room for the handwriting experts to have a go
Monique
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Re: 1881 lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 December 05 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Samuel is at 27 George rd Islington South in 1891, already widowed. Still an american merchant. His daughter Alice D (not listed in 1881-aged 22 and born epsom, surrey) is there with   Marie e stuart (single, trained nurse age 28) and servant Minnie Butcher
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Re: 1881 lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 December 05 11:40 GMT (UK) »
in 1891, Horace looks as though he is doing very well for himself in the leafy lanes of Essex
No 2 Green Lane Villas, Ilford
33 year old Architect with wife Annie (36, Gloucester)
children edith(5, tottenham)
caroline D (7m)
Brother Digby is with them (merchants clerk)
and Edith Lilley a servant
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Re: 1881 lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 December 05 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Samuel with first wife in 1861?

RG9/419 Folio 107 Page 14
Eagle Cottage, East Street, Epsom, Surrey
Samuel Cropper 29 Lace and Ribbon Merchant Nottingham
Sarah A 28 Nottingham
Sarah J 4 New York British Subject
Horace J 3 Nottingham
William S? 1 Nottingham
Louisa W Walters 15 Nurse Domestic Servant Epsom Surrey

Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: 1881 lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 December 05 11:53 GMT (UK) »
do you have Samuel in 1901? At Grange rd Islington with Alice, Marie (now adopted) and grandchild Phillip s Ullman aged 18
Horace has moved to 6 Argyle rd Ilford and they have another daughter Margaret age 8

Digby has moved to "Ranelagh" on Mill Rd, Epsom and looks like he is working for his dads company as a salesman of folding cardboard boxes. His wife Amy (34)is from Smeeton Nottinghamshire Cousin Gertrude cropper (28, interestingly also from Smeeton Nottinghamshire) is staying with them-that may lead you to Samuels brother?
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Re: 1881 lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 December 05 12:01 GMT (UK) »
1871 RG10/799 Folio 29 Page 49
East Street, Epsom, Surrey
Samuel Cropper widower 37 Lace Merchant Nottingham
Sarah Jane 14 Scholar New York Brooklyn
Horace Jew? 13 Scholar Nottingham
William S 11 Scholar Nottingham
Shirley? ...... 9 Epsom (son, but name not very legible)
Digby Leopold 7 Epsom
Samuel 6 Epsom
Claude Worthington 4 Epsom (died aged 10)
Alice Daphne 2 Epsom
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: 1881 lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 December 05 12:07 GMT (UK) »
In 1891 theres a possible Gertrude for the one mentioned by mc8, with parents Henry Smith Cropper (Machine Builder and Iron Founder) and Mary Ellen + siblings (Gertrudes full name - Gertrude Nellie Horsfall Cropper!)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: 1881 lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 December 05 12:10 GMT (UK) »
A double wedding or cousins marrying? -

September 1897 Nottingham Vol 7b Page 511
Digby Leopold Cropper
Amy Florence Cropper
Elizabeth Wood
Charles Mason
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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