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Re: Descendents of Walter Phillips
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 December 05 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Margaret, this gives a bit of history when there shares are being made available. I expect that is why we suddenly see the companies mentioned so much in the Times - share prices updated on a regular basis. It seems that this man/companies was worth a fortune???
The profits of the 4 companies are 1922 - £110,708; 1923 -£116,016; 1924 - £134, 288; 1925 - £106,425.

Times - October 18th 1926
PROSPECTUS The company has been formed for the purposes mentioned in the memorandum of association and with the immediate object of taking over the business and net assets as on 30th November 1925 with the profits since that date except as in herinafter mentioned, of the present private company, Phillips Rubbers Lyd., of 142, 144 and 146 Old Street, London E.C.1. This company and its undermentioned subsiduary companies are the proprietors, manufacturers ans distributors of the well known PHILLIPS RUBBER SOLES AND HEELS for boots and shoes including the celebrated:
Phillips 'Military' Soles and Heels
Phillips 'President' Soles and 'Stick-a-Soles'
Phillips 'President' and 'Magna' Heels
Phillips Heel Tips

The assets to be aquired include all the issued shares in the following subsiduary companies viz:- Phillips Patents Ltd., 142, 144, and 146 Old Street, London, E.C.1
Premier Waterproof and Rubber Co., Ltd., Guide Bridge, near Manchester

Progress of Business
The original business was established by Mr. W.W. Phillips in 1898, and was converted into a limited company in 1903 under the title of Phillips Patents Limited. The business gradually developed, and became very extensive; and in November 1919, a new private company, Phillips Rubbers Ltd., was formed. This company aquired all the issued shares in the original company and in the Premier Waterproof and Rubber Co., Ltd. [which for some years previously had been manufacturing soles and heels for it], and shortly after that date the latter company became and has since been exclusively engaged in the manufacture of Phillips Rubber Soles and heels. In December 1923, further developments took place, and all the issued shares in the Guide Bridge Rubber Co., Ltd., were aquired; and since then, that company has been exclusively occupied in the manufacture of soles and heels for Phillips Patents Ltd. Many millions of pairs pf 'Phillips' products are now sold yearly in Great Britain and throughout the world; and there is considerable scope for largely increased business at home and abroad. THe name 'Phillips' is a household word in Great Britain in connection with rubber soles and heels and is also widely known throughout the world. It is a registered trade mark in Great Britain and in many other countries, and has acquired a very hight reputation for excellence of quality and scientific design. The goods have been, and are, extensively advertised. The business is well organised, and has been developed on sound and progressive lines.
REGISTERED DESIGNS &c
The assets to be acquired directly, or belonging to the subsiduary companies, include numerous registered designs, patents, trade marks and formulae which are very valuable. Many of these rights were originslly held on licence from Mr. W. W. Phillips at a royalty, but in 1923, Phillips Rubbers, Ltd., purchased these outright and compounded all future royalties by payment of a substantial sum in cash. Any future inventions by Mr. W. W. Phillips relative to rubber soles and heels up to 1st December 1934 [since extended to 1st December 1941] were included in the purchase without further payment, and the company will have the benefit of this important provision

hope this helps a bit more

Margaret :)

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Re: Descendents of Walter Phillips
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 December 05 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Margaret, found an advert for 9th December 1916 [a bit earlier] in the Times for Phillips Military Soles and Heels, as follows:

"Thin rubber plates, with raised studs, to be attached on top of ordinary soles and heels giving complete protection from wear. The rubber used is sis times more durable than leather.

They impart smoothness to the tread, lessen fatigue, and are essential to marching comfort. They grip prefectly and prevent slipping. Feet keep dry in wet weather. INVALUABLE TO MILITARY OFFICERS. IDEAL FOR GOLF, SHOOTING & COUNTRY WEAR.

From all bootmakers,
STOUT [for active service] 4/9 per set
LIGHT [for town wear, golf, etc.] 3/9 per set
LADIES [for general wear] 3/- per set.

Phillips Patents Ltd.
[Dept. D2] 142-6, Old St., London E.C.

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Re: Descendents of Walter Phillips
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 December 05 17:34 GMT (UK) »
I have a family engagement in the Times September 4th 1929

The daughter, Marjorie Joyce is engaged to Kenneth Long-Brown M.A.,  A.C.A., younger son of Mr. A Long-Brown of 8 princes Avenue, Muswell Hill. Marjorie is described as the younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs Phillips of Oaklands, Dyke road Avenue, Hove, Sussex

and another engagement  for the other daughter a few years earlier
Times December 8th 1925
Olive, the elder daughter of Mr and Mr W W Phillips of The Croft, Burgess Hill, Sussex to William Reginald Willison, youngest son of Mr and Mrs R Willison of Westbourne, Tillicoultry, Clackmannan AND THEN the marriage announcement in August 1926 - married on 7th August at St Johns, Burgess Hill. Her full name is given as GWENDOLINE OLIVE PHILLIPS

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Re: Descendents of Walter Phillips
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 December 05 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Magaret, have you got access to the Times online? If not you might want to see if this link [posted by smeghead] still works?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,86255.0.html

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Re: Descendents of Walter Phillips
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 December 05 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Margaret will give it a go. I hope it is easy to follow otherwise I will have to get my gradson to show me how to do it. Ha! Ha!

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Margaret

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Re: Descendents of Walter Phillips
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02 January 06 10:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Margaret. Happy New Year.

Well I managed to access the Times Archive and I can't believe how much information there is on the company. You must have groaned when I asked you to email the details. Ha! Ha! I am not that cruel I just thought it would be a few details. Crickey I will be burning out my printer if I copy it all.

Now all I need to do is find out which company he bought in 1898 and where it was? Was it one of the two in Manchester or another one somewhere else. I cannot see any other business associated with the company and I can't understand why they would have such large premises in London if the companies were up north because they weren't large factories!!!

Strangely I have just remembered an incident from my teens when I went to visit my cousin's grandfather and when I told him where I worked he told me he had worked there when he was a young man but it was called something else. They were actually called the Premier Waterproofing and Rubber Company and Guide Bridge Rubber Company I wish I had asked him for more information but you don't when you are that age do you?

Anyway thanks for all your hard work I really appreciate it. If you have any ideas about Walter's early life and where to look please let me know. I am curious to know how he accumulated the money to buy the companies on the wages of a salesman.

Thanks once again.

Margaret

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Re: Descendents of Walter Phillips
« Reply #15 on: Monday 02 January 06 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi the 'other Margaret' :)
I'm glad you managed to get in the Times - thats the end of life as you know it - you won't be able to get off it for weeks [spoken from experience!] ;D

Margaret, where was Walter William living in 1901 and what did he say he did for a living?

Margaret :)
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Re: Descendents of Walter Phillips
« Reply #16 on: Monday 02 January 06 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Margaret

In 1901 Walter was living 10 Brywymor Cres, St Mary's Parish, Swansea.

Walter W. Phillips Head age 29 Boot and Shoe Traveller born Cardiff.
Mary Jane Mother age 57 born Sheffield, Yorks
Bessie age 32 sister no occupation born Cardiff
George age 25 brother, clothes assistant born Swansea.
This is why I can't link Walter and Phillips Rubber Soles which he bought in 1898 why not say he was a rubber manufacturer on the 1901? Maybe if I looked to see what his brother James was doing it may give me a clue. George eventually became a director of the company. It seems such a big jump from shop assistant doesn't it?

On the 1891 census he is listed as Clerk as are his 2 brothers. Mother Mary is a widow. All living at 57 St Helen's Ave, St Helens, Swansea

On the 1881 census living at 35 St Helen's Ave.
Can't read father John's occupation but on earlier censuses he appears to be a Linen Draper/Shopkeeper in the St John's area of Cardiff and Walter a scholar.

Maybe the money came from his father but as I don't know the social history of the Swansea/Cardiff area I can't envisage the house/shop which may give me a clue.

Will look for James on 1901 now and see what I can find.

Speak to you later.

Margaret ;)


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Re: Descendents of Walter Phillips
« Reply #17 on: Monday 02 January 06 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Margaret - so what have you got so far :)

Walter William Phillips was born in Cardiff but living in Swansea in 1901 working as a boot and shoe traveller. We can assume from later information that he was running his own business in 1901 [commenced 1898]. We do not know if he was running this as a 'one man band' and/or if he was selling/making his own shoe heel and sole inventions ??

We know that by 1903 he had converted his original/1898 business into a Limited Company which he called Phillips Patents Ltd.

Five years from start up in 1898 to establishing a limited company in 1903 isn't a long time - what you don't know is the scope of this business and how it was financed or running?

Why call it Phillips Patents Limited - we know from later information in 1925 that he had a number of 'inventions' patented under his name that included his stick-a-soles and heels, military soles and heels, etc.  Did he need to convert his original 1898 business into a company in 1903 to protect his patented inventions under the Patents, Designs & Trade Marks Act of 1883?

You can search for history of patents - first port of call is PATLIB
www.bl.uk/collections/patents/patentsnetwork.html
I think there are centres all over the UK, but you have to visit by the look of it!


There is some [probably minor]court case going on in 1907 [see Times Monday March 4th 1907].

We know that Phillips Patents Limited is making soles and heels from RUBBER [see Times advert for Phillips Military Soles and Heels -9.12.1916]

If you go to
www.diggerhistory.info/pages-uniforms/leg-foot-wear.htm
there is information about his Phillips Military Sole and Heel that include the patent number
Phillips Military Sole Size A Special Quality Stout RD no 644802
Phillips Military Heel 3 Stout Special Quality Patent RD no 645522

Did he make some of his money selling his military soles and heels to the army during 1914-18??

We know that in November 1919 a NEW private company called Phillips Rubbers Ltd was established and that this NEW company acquired the shares from his original company [suspect that means the 1903 Phillips patents Ltd] and also acquired the shares of the Premier Waterproof Rubber Company [how was WW Phillips involved in this company - or did he just but it out?]

We know that in December 1923 Phillips Rubbers Ltd acquired Guide Bridge Rubber Ltd and that finally in 1925 Phillips Rubbers Ltd [including it subsuiduaries of Phillips Patents, Premier Waterproof and Guide Bridge] finally became PHILLIPS RUBBER SOLES LTd

All this about RUBBERand nothing about Yeast!! but he could have patented a number of his ideas under his 1903 Phillips Patents Limited.

phew!
Margaret :)
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