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Rufus Jarman researcher?
« on: Sunday 05 September 04 12:52 BST (UK) »
I am sure I recall someone somewhere (not sure where) researching a RUFUS JARMAN I have come across a Monumental Inscription for this individual which I have photographed if someone wishes to have a copy the inscriptions is as follows:

RUFUS JARMAN Of Rosenau Datchet August 1, 1871

The grave is located in St Peters Church Cockett Churchyard Cockett Swansea South Wales

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Jen L Colbert
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Re: Rufus Jarman researcher?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 March 06 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for this, will pass it on to colleague in Slough who is researching the Jarmans here. The main Bucks group of family monuments & stained glass window is in Datchet parish church (now Berks since 1974)

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Re: Rufus Jarman researcher?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 06:24 BST (UK) »
It has been some time since the grave of Rufus Jarman was listed with RootsChat but I trust those involved can be contacted at this late stage .

I am a direct descendant to one of his brothers , his father was John Boykett Jarman well known as a collector of ancient manuscripts in museums today.

Rufus grandfather was Sir Charles Boykett  Jarman and he was only a few generations  from Charles II , our existance came from bastards one might say , Sir Charles & Elizabeth are within the Deans Cloister at St Georges Chapel Windsor Castle .   

Rufus , the second eldest son had a difficult time with paternal attitudes  ;  moreso  to the expectations in being close to royalty but at arms length one might say , although in his case , Rufus drowned .

Although I have some information passed down from my ancestors , anyone able to add to my records of the Jarmans at Rosenan Datchet ( prior to 1870 ) would be much appreciated  , thank you . 



         

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Re: Rufus Jarman researcher?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 October 09 03:33 BST (UK) »
I too am interested in the Rufus Jarman who was said to have drowned in front of Rosenau at Datchet.  Clearly this is not true.
In fact the inscription placed in the Datchet church by Boykett Jarman's eldest daughter, Anne indicates that it was Egbert who drowned there on 15th August 1848 aged 25.

I am descended from their half-brother John Charles FitxJohn Hall

MegM


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Re: Rufus Jarman researcher?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 October 09 10:06 BST (UK) »
I am the original poster of the Datchet / Slough info and am in touch with relatives of yours who have done a great deal of good research. You're welcome to email me:

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 February 10 11:14 GMT (UK) »
I am also interested in this family because the brother of my 2x great grandmother, William James Beadel, married Elizabeth Appolonia Jarman - so his children were descendants of John Boykett Jarman. Those children were Reginald Boykett Beadel, Lilian Mary Beadel (married name Dyer), Linda Lucette Beadel and Rupert William Beadel. I know that Lilian  married a clergyman and lived for many years in White Waltham Berkshire and that Linda, still a spinster, was killed by a motor car in 1906. The fate of both sons was a mystery to me for many years but I have more recently discovered that Rupert emigrated to Australia (Sydney), married there in 1885 and  died there in 1913, leaving one son who seems not to have married. I came across a solicitors notice dated 1937  in a Sydney newspaper asking the widow or son of Rupert William Beadel to contact them in order to hear something to their advantage, and wondered if this was in some connection with the will of Ann Elizabeth Jarman, which was still being executed at that time according to entries in the London Gazette.

My reason for posting is really because I am wondering if any Jarman researchers have come across any information at all  about Reginald Boykett Beadel (born c. 1855). He was at Cambridge University in the mid 1870's but his entry there gives no indication of his subsequent career and I don't think it is even clear that he graduated. He must have been alive when his father died in 1892 as he is mentioned in the will, but there are no later census entries, marriage or death records for him in England - so emigration seems the most likely thing.

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Re: Rufus Jarman researcher?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 February 10 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Linda

Welcome to Rootschat!  :)

Welsh Jen hasn't been back to Rootschat for a while and some of the others on this thread only have one post - but I'll keep my fingers crossed that they get a notification of your post and return to greet you!

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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Re: Rufus Jarman researcher?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 February 10 01:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lynda - I'm a descendant (Australian) of Elizabeth Appolonia's half-brother, and am fascinated by the fact that Ann Jarman's will was still being executed more than 40 years after her death.
Do you have any idea why?
Can the original will be accessed?

The last mention of any Australian descendants of the Jarmans is in a document dated 1911 -- probably not much use to you.

I can follow it up for you - but not for a couple of weeks.  I'm a bit time-short at present
MegM

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Re: Rufus Jarman researcher?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 February 10 03:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello Lynda ,
I have to say I was intrigued see this branch of the Jarman family tree .

My connection is similar to that of  MegM  as previously documented  ;  although I have seen the  Beadel  name during my research ,  there has been little handed down in reference .

I'm often searching for information & if I come across any relevant items of interest , I would be happy to pass them on....

Fitz John Hall