Bannisters and Ringrose

[katiebee]

I have a Wellburn Ringrose married to an Ann Bannister in 1810 in Driffield. Ann Bannister had a son, George born in 1809 and his children have as second names "Ringrose" or "Hill". He married a Mary Hill so this tells me that his father was Wellburn Ringrose. These children were born at Foxholes. Is anyone researching this family? I know that the Bannister family had a tailor shop in Rudston in the 1800's before they came to Canada. Would appreciate any help on where Ann came from and any info on the rest of the family. Karin

[Valda]

On the 1851 census there is an Ann Ringrose born Foxholes

HO 107 2368 folio 90
Flixton  Yorkshire   
Ann Ringrose aged 72 born Foxholes, Yorkshire, Head Widow Farmer's widow
Thomasin Johnson 45  born Brampton, Yorkshire,  House Servant 

Balanced against that George Bannister on the 1851 census born circa 1810 Driffield is a shoemaker with his wife and four sons in Foxholes with Boythorpe.
While Welburn Ringrose born circa 1821 in Driffield is a lodger in  Kirby Grindalythe and also a shoemaker. It seems unlikely shoemakers would have a father who was a farmer.

Regards
Valda

[katiebee]

Thank you for the info from the 1851 census. I did not have this before. I haven't been able to find "Ann" except for the birth of George in 1809 and marriage to Wellburn Ringrose in 1810. I have info on "Wellburn". There are also some Ringrose children.Wellurn Ringrose Bannister, son of George Bannister and Mary Hill[grandson of Ann] married Milcah Lamb and this was my husband's great grand parents.  They were tailors in Rudston. Karin

[SATony]

In case you are interested in the Welburn Ringrose side, he was the son of Dorothy Welburn b1738, Sherburn and Jonathan Ringrose b1736, Helperthorpe, baptised 12/4/1778, Sherburn. Ultimately you can trace the Welburn line back to Christopher Welburn ~1680. No info on the Bannister side as coming down from the Welburn line.

SATony

[Rena]

It seems unlikely shoemakers would have a father who was a farmer.

Regards
Valda

I mainly agree with this where large estates were kept intact excepting for when younger sons were awarded some land on the periphery of the estate to farm.  The land one of my ancestors had couldn't be divided further and many cousins in the next generation 1851 onwards had a diversity of occupations ranging from potter, shoeshop owner, cutler, and even miner earning more money than he could possibly earn on the land.   If the apprenticeship records of the shoesmith trade still exist the father's name is probably recorded and how much he paid to whom for the apprenticeship training.

Rena

[Valda]

1841 census HO107 1214/4 folio 4 page 2
Folkton  Yorkshire containing the village of Flixton
George Ringrose 35  Yorkshire Farmer
Ann Ringrose 65  Yorkshire Ind.
John Ringrose 30  Yorkshire  Ind.
Ringrose Hudson 3  Yorkshire
plus 1 female servant

1851 census HO107 2368 folio 82
Flixton and Scarborough Road Flixton  Yorkshire 
George Ringrose 50  Flixton, Yorkshire,  Head Married Farmer of 763 acres employing 12 labourers
Margaret Ringrose 32 Scarbro, Yorkshire,  Wife Married
Ann Ringrose 6mths  Flixton, Yorkshire,  Daughter
plus 12 servants 

This Flixton group of Ringroses (there are others than those given), near Scarborough, seem of a socially higher status to the Great Driffield Ringroses further south.

1851 census HO107 2369 folio 45
Kirby Grindalythe  Yorkshire 
Welburn Ringrose  30  Driffield Lodger Unmarried Shoemaker

1851 census HO107 2366 folio 584
Foxholes with Boythorpe  Yorkshire   
Geo Bannister  41  Driffield, Yorkshire, Head  Married Shoemaker
Mary Bannister 41  Langtoft, Yorkshire, Wife Married
Thos Bannister  11  Foxholes, Yorkshire, Son 
Francis Bannister 9  Foxholes, Yorkshire, Son
Geo Bannister  6  Foxholes, Yorkshire,  Son 
Godfrey Bannister  2  Foxholes, Yorkshire, Son 

1841 census HO107 1214/11 folio 7 page 9
Foxholes  Yorkshire   
Geo Banister 30  Yorkshire  Shoemaker
Mary Banister 30  Yorkshire
Sarah Banister 8  Yorkshire 
Whelbourn Banister 6  Yorkshire
Ann Banister 4  Yorkshire
Thos Banister 1  Yorkshire 

Cant's see Welbourn Ringrose junior on the 1841 census but his sister Ellen is still unmarried in Driffield.

1841 census HO107 1217/2 folio 8 page 2
Driffield  Yorkshire
Ellen Ringrose 25  Yorkshire female servant

No sign of their parents.

Regards

Valda