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QUINN - new information-anyone connect?
« on: Friday 25 November 05 16:49 GMT (UK) »
A recently found cousin is providing bits and pieces that is slowly giving us some new leads to work with.  If I have repeated any of this, sorry.  Just trying to keep all of this straight in my head!

There were 3 Quinn families officially listed as living in the Ballintra area of Donegal.  Actually there were four, but this is where it already gets confusing. One was called the "Daniel Quinn family," one was the "John Quinn family," and the other two were both known as the "Patrick Quinn families."

My new cousin, Patrick Quinn (I'll call him Pat) is descended from the Daniel Quinn family.  I come down from the John Quinn family.  As for the other two, one was always known as family, the other one wasn't.  BUT, all four of these families shared all the same relatives!

This next part is just a bit confusing, and I'm trying now to get this straightened out.  Even though all of these families were known as being from Ballintra village, they were actually from Ballinakillew Mountain and an area known as The Oucht.  I'm told it's because no one knew where these places were, so they would say Ballintra village.

The Daniel Quinn family owned a farm that was known to be located at the top of the street in Ballintra.  Right after 1800, they were forced from their farm and relocated to another farm that was in Lisnapaste (Ballinakillew.)  Today the Church of Ireland stands on this land.  Since The Oucht and Ballinakillew Mountain were only a couple of miles from the village, I have to assume that this was the area they referred to as "at the top of the street."

The John Quinn family seems to have lived on a farm somewhere in the area, but it's confusing as to exactly where it was.  We know he rented 10 perches of land in Rafoarty, and we know that sometime around 1844, the family was moved into a house that was in Ballintra village.  The land, the house, and the move was all because of Alexander Hamilton owning these things and moving them.

Now, for the REALLY confusing part!!  There are so many Patrick's here, I can't keep them straight yet!  One of the Patrick Quinn families was supposedly not related, but their farm bordered the other Patrick Quinn farm.  The cousin I'm talking to (Pat) says that it depended on which part of the family you talked to.  Some said they weren't family, some said they were.  And since they list the same relatives, we both feel they were family.

Now, in the middle of all of this comes yet ANOTHER Quinn!  There was an old man named Andrew Quinn.  Pat's family said he was not family.  His farm bordered one of the other Quinn farms.  When Pat's grandmother was pregnant, he came to her and told her that if the baby was a boy, and she would name it Andrew, he would give the child his farm.

The baby was a boy, born in 1879. This was Pat's father. (By the way, Pat himself is in his late 70's now.)  They named him Andrew, and the old man did give him the farm.  He moved in with Pat's grandparents and lived with them until he died, which was when he was EXTREMELY old.  When the baby Andrew grew up, he took over this farm that was given to him.

Pat says that the family later said that this old man WAS a relative of the family.  And that the 4th Patrick Quinn family was also related, but for some reason no one would admit it.

I told all this, hoping someone might have the same stories in their family.  So, basically, is anyone connected to:

Andrew Quinn, ANY Patrick Quinn, Daniel Quinn, John Quinn, and their families? Are they from Ballintra village, or Ballinakillew Mountain, or The Oucht?

We have determined that every Quinn in this area was a blood relation, and we are now on the massive search to find these descendants.

One more monkey wrench here??? ONE of these farms was sold sometime around 1900-1920 to yet ANOTHER Patrick Quinn!!  His grandsons took over the farm, and one still lives there today.  The other one is named Sean and he lives here in the United States - Connecticut I think.

Now that I have TOTALLY scrambled everyone's brains, here is ANOTHER Pat Quinn signing off.

Patty
Quinn of County Donegal
Overn family of County Down and Fermanagh
Teague family of Ireland
Roe family
Ussery family
Stockton family

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Re: QUINN - new information-anyone connect?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 April 06 04:23 BST (UK) »
 :D ??? ;D

Sorry I can't add to your Donegal Quin/Quinn's but just to give you moral support after I stopped laughing and crying with laughing

I realised I must sound like you at times...I am Mary Patricia Quinn born St Patricks Day XXX in Northumberland England ....I grew up thinking I was unique....

I came to Genealogy late in life when everyone who could have told me anything in life was already gone and have got what I have got by tenacity.....like a dog with a bone.....

My father said "the family" came from Clare ..... well that proved wrong .....but not quite.... in the 1891 Census of Newcastle my Great Grandfather Patrick Quinn gave his birthplace as Armagh....four other siblings who all came to England give creenagh kilmore armagh as birth or registration place...in RC Church Records in Felling Durham and Newcastle Northumberland......so we all know the descendents are those five are related....

My Great  Great grandfather was Patrick Quinn he never left Ireland and Clare well I guess they moved from Creenagh as not far away is a Clare Township, a Clare River, and a Clare Glen ....all in  Armagh...near to Tandragee...I think they had moved over the border from Tyrone in the case of the Quinns and from West Meath in the case of the Daltons....

They all had large families and until I was born most of the men had PATRICK JOHN JAMES JOSEPH FRANCIS FELIX  AND THE WOMEN Mary Ann Catherine Rose Margaret Maureen and Moira .......

 I found that not only was I not unique I had two of the most commonest names known Mary and Patricia.....suddenly from me onwards Pat Quinn's abounded in the female line....

All the old names have a modern variation on the same theme ....

JOHN'S HAVE BECOME ...SEAN'S OR IAN'S....CATHERINES ...BECOME KAREN OR KATHRYN...JAMES HAS BECOME JAMIE AND ARE BOTH MALE AND FEMALE ELIZABETH HAS BECOME EILAS. FRANCIS IS BOTH SEXES. FELIX HAS DROPPED OUT OF FASHION BUT TENDS TO BE A NAME THEY GIVE THE CAT OR DOG NOW ....WAS IT A HERD INSTINCT AS MY FAMILY NAMED THERE CHILDREN WHAT THEY CHOSE AND GOT A SHOCK WHEN THEY DISCOVERED IT HAS HAPPENED ......

One grand-daughter was given three names Kathryn Elizabeth Constance  and every single name had been used before....and the name of Patrick and Patricia as a second name is legion.....

Mary Anne's are now Anne-Maries.....

Perhaps if we DNA tested all Quin/Quinns in the world ....it would turn out that we are all descended from the first man and his name was Adam Quinn.....yes we have an Adam too .....Adam Laurence Patrick...its so uncanny....

Happy Hunting and Thank You for a good laugh on a dismal winters day.......my email is (*)....if any one wants to get in touch ......at the first sign of any connection to Donegal .....I will be in touch....I love Donegal its my favourite County....

My cousin Laurence Patrick Quinn went down off Bloody Foreland and Tory Island in a Sunderland Flying Boat....Sept 1944 ....5 RAF Crew and 5 RCAF  Crew..... Flying off Lough Erne from Castle Archdale....strange to say from there names they all had Ancestors from Ulster ...A big debt of gratitude is owed to Eamon De Valera and Winston Churchill who made a secret pact to allow those boys to fly along what came to be known as the Donegal Corridor a wonderful book by Joe O Loughin an author from Fermanagh ....about the Donegal Corridor is a good read....
I was given a copy for Christmas......

Patsy Norman nee Quinn

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Re: QUINN - new information-anyone connect?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 March 09 23:40 GMT (UK) »
hi have a john quinn abt who we think married a mary baxter
they had a least two daughters catherine 1862 and mary 1866
there is talk in the family of at least 3 brothers
catherine married robert black in 1879
wonder if there is any link
langan, huddart.huddert,hudder,clark,black,dunne,quinn,