Emma HAMLIN

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Sorry - yes of course, Johanna is, then, still very much in the picture.  And yes, Anne 'Hanlon' witnessed the marriage, though I'm slightly doubtful about the connection here, since the name is spelt 'Hamlyn' for both Emma and William.  Hmmm.

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PS you don't know whether the Butchers' Guild has nineteenth records of individual members, do you?!

[janan]

No idea about the butcher's guild - have you tried googling?
Re Ann Hanlon bit of a longshot that she is Emma's sister but I suppose the name could be spelt differently because of how she signed her name in the original register ?? Not that it helps all that much anyway

If you can get to see the original baptism entry there is a good chance it will give William's occupation - so fingers crossed

Jan

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Good point about the signature.  I think a trip to London is in order - goodness knows when!  Will let you know what I discover - if anything.

[janan]

Looking forward to the next installment
Jan

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Ok, Jan, here's the 'next instalment' - though it's only a small jigsaw piece.  I've just found William Hamlyn, butcher, in Pigot's 1839 Directory.  His address is 7 Lumber Court, Seven Dials - which is just down the road from the St Giles & Bloomsbury Workhouse in which he was incarcerated two years later.  There's also a Henry Hamlyn, a porkman, living/working at 18 Lumber Court, Seven Dials.   Still haven't got down to London to look at records in the Guildhall Library.  All best, Emma

[janan]

Hi Emma
Every little piece helps
By the way I've just discovered one of mine was born in Shorts Gardens which is where St Giles Workhouse is.
Regards Jan

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What a coincidence!  Unfortunately, the St Giles Workhouse admission and discharge records held at the London Metropolitan Archives only date from 1871, so these won't be of any use to me.  Still don't know whether the Worshipful Company of Butchers' Guild has any relevant archives - can't find anything on their website.  But I reckon the next step is still to check out those christening registers at St Botolph Bishopsgate.  All best, Emma

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Hi, Jan,

Breakthrough!!!!

I discovered that a William Henry Hamlyn was born in St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury in 1837 and sent off for the birth certificate in the hope that his father was our William.  He was!  William Henry Hamlyn was born on 2 August 'at 5 o'clock in the morning' at 18 Lumber Court.  His father was William Henry Hamlyn, butcher, and his mother Sarah Hamlyn, formerly Carr.  The birth was registered by the father.  An immediate trawl through the obvious websites has come up with a tantalising entry on IGI - 'William Henry Hamlyn and Sarah Carr are listed as having married 'in London' on 20 Oct 1835.  So I don't know which church!  The film number is given as 184220, page number 954, ref. no. 21366.  Do you happen to know whether it's possible to send off for more details on the basis of this? 

I've searched for Sarah Hamlyn in the censuses and have found an intriguing entry in Jersey in 1851, where a Sarah Hamlyn 'unmarried', aged 47 is working as a 'maid of all works' in a household where there is a groom called 'William Ca??' (ink splodge) aged 21, both Sarah and William being born in Plymouth....  I wonder...!

Any further suggestions gratefully received!

Best wishes,
Emma