Emma HAMLIN

[Arranroots]

Question: was William Hamlyn deceased at the time of Emma's marriage to Charles/ Lot?

I am finding it difficult to distinguish the facts from the suppositions here!! 

It would be a good idea to retrench, not necessarily publicly (!) and review what you know.  Have we asked about the witnesses on the marriage cert?  Sometimes they can help.

Still mulling this over 

Arranroots 

[janan]

Arranroots
You've probably already checked and discounted these in 1851

Emma Hamblin born Berks about 1831 living Berks
Emma Hamblin born Berks about 1837 living Berks
Jane Hamblin born Berks about 1837 living Berks

Jan

[Dizzy Escape]

Hello all!  Re. the marriage certificate - here is the full info:
30th June 1864: Parish Church, Paddington, Middx
Charles Lot Cheeseman - full age - bachelor - coachman - Parish of Rusthall, Kent - Father: Charles Cheeseman - Labourer
Emma Hamlyn - full age - spinster - no occup - Gloucester Terrace - Fr: William Hamlyn - Butcher.
Married after Banns.
Witnesses:  John Mason and Anne Hamlon [sic]

No mention of either father being deceased - but on the other hand I've a number of marriage certificates which have omitted to mention this when I know for certain that the fathers are dead.

[janan]

Going on what you have on the Marriage certificate Emma was living in Middx. Have you seen this IGI entry?

Emma Hamlyn born 23rd May 1834, baptised 8th Feb 1835 at St Botolph Bishopgate, London parents William Hamlyn and Johanna

Worth chasing her up in 51 and 61 I would think.
Jan

[Dizzy Escape]

I've just been looking up the witness Ann Hanlon to see if there's any sign of her in the 1861 Paddington Censuses.  There are two possibilities:  Ann Hamlyn (b.c1799), a servant in the house of a clergyman called Charles F. Kingdom.  Interestingly, Charles Kingdom was born in Plymouth and Ann Hamlyn in Clovelly, Devon - so the Devon connection strikes again!  The other possibility is a Mary Ann Hamlon, a 21 yr old servant from Ireland, employed by the Casolani family.

[Arranroots]

I'm back! 

Johanna & William HAMLIN found in 1851 in Cornwall - the only ones & he is not a butcher.

Back soon...

[janan]

Johanna & William HAMLIN found in 1851 in Cornwall - the only ones & he is not a butcher.

 
Jan

[Arranroots]

Bizarrely there are two in 1861, but not the same one!

The two I found were both married to Thomases.

Will try again from the William angle, but I think I have "done" all Wm Hamlins in 1851 already.

[janan]

Dizzy
Is Anne Hamlon you found unmarried? Just having thoughts of an illegitimate birth ie William Hamlyn may be fictitious or Ann's father (have an example in my own tree where grandfather is given as father).
Jan