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Edward Stanley Graham
« on: Monday 21 November 05 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Looking for any info on Edward Stanley Graham, b: abt 1873.  He is shown on 1891 census as a grandson living with William & Jane Graham, 18 yrs. old and a blacksmith apprentice.  He is gone on 1901 census.  My mother said she saw a picture of him in a military uniform which had been sent to her father, she thinks from India but that is speculation.  No further military info known.  Trying to determine his parentage.  Any help is appreciated,  thanks in advance.

Wayne

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Re: Edward Stanley Graham
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 November 05 21:40 GMT (UK) »


Hi Wayne! and Welcome to RootsChat!

Can you tell where abouts Edward Stanley came from?or anything else you might know that would give us some clues!

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Re: Edward Stanley Graham
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 November 05 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wayne

The 1881 Census Shows as Follows

Collission Rooms  West Linton Cumberland

William Graham Head M 64 Farmer Born Kirklinton Cumberland
Jane Graham Wife M 59 Farmers Wife   Born Kirklinton Cumberland
Philip Graham Son Um 33 Farners Son   Born Kirklinton Cumberland
Thomas Graham Son 30 Farmers Son     Born Kirklinton Cumberland
Margt? A Graham Dau 18 Farmers Dau   Born Kirklinton Cumberland
Sybil Graham Dau 16        Farmers Dau   Born Kirklinton Cumberland
Edward Graham Grandson 8 Scholar       Born Kirklinton Cumberland


Hope this helps

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Re: Edward Stanley Graham
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 November 05 23:41 GMT (UK) »
Iria - thx, I have the 1891 census info as well, showing him as 18 yrs. old but then he is gone.  The only other info I have is a recollection by my mother that she saw a pic. of him in military uniform.

Annie - I should have noted in my original post that he was from Kirklinton, Cumberland, England.  On the 1891 census there was also another grandson living with Wm. & Jane Graham, Robert William Stanley Graham (this is my mother's father).  Wm. & Jane had an unwed daughter named Jane who gave birth to Robert.   On Robert's birth cert. young Jane is the mother and the father is unknown.  I am thinking that Edward Stanley may have been a grandson under a similar situation, perhaps even a second son of unwed Jane.  Our real goal is to establish the father of Robert and the eventual whereabouts of mother Jane, but we thought perhaps establishing Edward's father/mother  might help us out.  Unwed Jane disappears after Robert's birth and Robert was actually shown as a nursing child (2 yrs. old) with another family (Nelson family) on the 1881 census.  Unwed Jane either died (no sign of death cert. yet) or left home or married (no marriage info to be found).    Other than the military picture, I have nothing else on Edward.  I thank you for your interest and assistance.   

Wayne


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Re: Edward Stanley Graham
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 November 05 01:35 GMT (UK) »
The fact that they both have the middle name 'Stanley' is probably significant; this could be the last name of their father.

There is an unwed Jane Graham in Kirlington in 1881, aged 36, with children Mary, 11, and John, 3 - a possible relation?

There's a possible birth for him on freebmd; Edward Graham, b. Dec 1872 Longtown; no Edward Stanley Graham, no Edward Stanley... but I don't know if you'll have much luck with the birth certificate as at about this time I believe it was not allowed to put the father's name on unless he attended at the registry office.

How about the marriage certificate of Robert, any luck there?

You might also try Kilklinton parish records; the Cumbria Archives Service holds copies of these:
http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/familyhistory/default.asp
and the LDS probably have them on film.
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Re: Edward Stanley Graham
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 November 05 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Jorose

Thanks.  The unwed Jane aged 36 is about 9 yrs. too old I think, so probably not the right one, but could certainly be a relation as could all the Grahams around Kirklinton I guess.   Edward Graham, b Dec. 1872 is a possible.

My sister is also researching in other areas.  I will have to contact her to determine if she has researched Robert's marriage, I know we have the birth certificate for Robert showing Jane Graham as mother and father unknown.

I will try those other sources of info.  Thanks again.

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Re: Edward Stanley Graham
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 November 05 00:21 GMT (UK) »

My geography is hopeless - so I'm wondering if Maryport is close to Kirklinton!!

1901 Blackburn

Edward Graham   31   Head Maryport Cumberland Butcher
with wife Agnes and a son and daughter
RG13/3907 Folio   11 Page   13

So if this is him - he wasn't in uniform yet - if at all!

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Re: Edward Stanley Graham
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 November 05 16:16 GMT (UK) »

My geography is hopeless - so I'm wondering if Maryport is close to Kirklinton!!


it's about 30 miles or so away

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Re: Edward Stanley Graham
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 November 05 16:21 GMT (UK) »




Chris! - I said I was no good at geography!!! ;)

So can you find this soldier for Wayne??

Annie
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