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The SWAN INN, Hanworth, 1851 and today COMPLETED
« on: Monday 21 November 05 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Everyone,
Could I ask whether someone with local knowledge of the Isleworth area knows if The Swan Inn, two doors away from the Gatfield family I enquired about in the 1851 Census (HO 107 Folio 1696 page 148), is the same hostelry today as The Swan Inn, Swan Street, Isleworth.
It's just that the street on the 1851 image is not given...
very best wishes,
keith

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Re: The SWAN INN, Hanworth, 1851 and today
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 November 05 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Keith,

You've puzzled me - Hanworth and Isleworth are a few miles apart.  Which one did you mean?

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Re: The SWAN INN, Hanworth, 1851 and today
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 November 05 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Keith,

Just re-read your message.  Hanworth is not the same place as Isleworth.  Isleworth is on the river Thames just upstream of Brentford, while Hanworth is not.  It is about 4 miles away (roughly south) from Isleworth.

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Re: The SWAN INN, Hanworth, 1851 and today
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 November 05 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Nell,
Well, it gives Hanworth in the 1851 Census, and I googled just now with The Swan, Hanworth.  This threw up The Swan in modern-day Isleworth - I just thought that maybe they were one and the same place; I hadn't realised that they might be some distance from one another...
Keith
Four miles away, as you've further informed me, probably means it's not the same pub at all, sorry!

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Re: The SWAN INN, Hanworth, 1851 and today
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 November 05 14:58 GMT (UK) »
A little local history for you if you are interested: the Swan in Isleworth was first recorded as licensed premises in 1722 and rebuilt (shame) in about 1930.

The Swan in Hanworth was rebuilt in the 1920s and stood near the junction of Bear Road, Green Lane, Maid Street and Swan Road.

I can't find any pictures of them at the moment - only corners of them!

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Re: The SWAN INN, Hanworth, 1851 and today
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 November 05 15:03 GMT (UK) »
An excellent local history lesson, Nell!
Now I realise that they were definitely different watering holes - and what a pity that neither is still standing as the original...
Keith

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Re: The SWAN INN, Hanworth, 1851 and today
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 May 06 14:33 BST (UK) »
Couldn't help put a word in edgeways - I used to live off Swan Road, Hanworth and walked my children passed 'The Swan' on the way to their school. I didn't actually sample the wares but a lad in one of my son's classes actually lived there. It's still in the same location.
What was the address of the Gatfield family? I'm not so far away from it now and can check if it's still there (though I doubt it).

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Re: The SWAN INN, Hanworth, 1851 and today
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 May 06 14:49 BST (UK) »
Phil,
Thanks so much for giving this thread some thought.  I need to discover where I put the original page from the 1851 Census that some kind person on Rootschat sent me in November, then I'll get back to you, hopefully with the number of the house...
Very best wishes,
Keith

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Re: The SWAN INN, Hanworth, 1851 and today COMPLETED
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 February 09 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Keith,
The notification of this topic moving board reminds me that a friend produced an old book with photos of old Hanworth the other day and I think the picture I saw of 'The Swan' might have been the original
pre-1920s building.
Cheers,
Phil
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