Blue Blood

[goggy]

Hi All!
S,Me again,the positively,definitely,irrevocably,avowed, last time I put my head in the door to see whats going on!!!
Convicts,yes got some,and stories to go with 'em.
Have followed progress from nadir to zenith,from road gang to cattle kings.Fascinating,one even celebrated in "The Man from Snowy River".
        Go get em Tiger,details later.
                  Goggy

[Guy Etchells]

I really don't think there are that many family historians in America that think they must be famous or descended from royalty. I am sure as many people in other countries do the same thing. Americans are not the abnormality. I am rather insulted by that broad brush you paint us with. Americans all know we came from somewhere. None of us other than Native Americans were born here. I find my ancestors came from 8 different countries. Think about trying to figure out how to research 8 different vital records registrations, parish records, census (if they had one) and ways of life. A difficult task at best. Some days I work on my German line, another Scottish, then British then back to Russia.

An intersting point to remember is many of the early Americans that left Britian were fleeing religious persecution or were second sons of wealthy families that wanted to make their won wealth as the famil estate cold not be broken up any further. It was not a cheap trip over tho the colonies Many did come from nobility. They were poorer relations but had some money none the less. A pauper was not going to secure passage on the ships in the Great Migration in the 1600's. It was an economic investment.

Sorry to ramble. I could go on forever.

No a pauper would not secure passage in the 1600s but many paupers did later when the parish paid for their fare to America rather than provide for then. In a similar vien many convicts were sent to America between 1618 & 1775
Cheers
Guy

[jakky]

Hi All,


You all enjoy your tree, it is yours and if you find interesting connections of any kind then that is a bonus.

There has to be descendants   of Royalty somewhere, so why not your family?

I hope you all find interesting ancestors, mine are a bit boring up to now, I wouldn,t mind a royal or convict or two to liven it up,

Enjoy your research


Jakky

[Tariana]

Okay, here goes. Please correct me if you see any mistakes. I will refer to living ancestors as Mister and Miss.

Henry Tudor VII + Elizabeth Plantagenet
Mary Tudor + Charles Brandon
Eleanor Brandon + Henry De Clifford
Margaret De Clifford + Henry Stanley
William Stanley + Elizabeth De Vere
Ann Stanley + Robert Kerr (Nesbit)
Agnes Nesbit + William Curry
Robert Curry + Jane Seawright
Samuel Curry + Margaret (Mary Polly) Seawright
Jane Curry + Reuben Skelton
Nancy Skelton + Lewis Dowell
Martin Dowell + Malinda Fincannon
Roxanna Dowell + Jeff Alexander Fortner
Laura Belle Fortner + Albert Wesley Beam
Ray Clement Beam + Hattie R Virginia Julian
Miss Beam + Glenn Boyd Smith
Miss Smith + Mister Ferguson
Miss Ferguson (me)

[Paul E]

No disrespect to those of you who can (or wish to) claim blue blood ... but the day I encounter any member of the in-bred British royalty in my own direct ancestry is probably the day I'll want to hang up my researching cap!  

Paul


PS

Now a nice solid Cromwellian - that would be different 

[Tariana]

No disrespect to those of you who can (or wish to) claim blue blood ... but the day I encounter any member of the in-bred British royalty in my own direct ancestry is probably the day I'll want to hang up my researching cap!  

Paul


PS

Now a nice solid Cromwellian - that would be different 

actually all humans are inbred. Just some are more so than others. I suggest you look up "the seven daughters of eve" and "mitochondrial dna"
that's one good example.

[goggy]

Sorry to butt in here,the Island of Madiera has more Blue Blood in its inhabitants than you can poke a stick at.Thats where a lot of Gentlefolk dropped their embarrassing little bundles in times past.
As for anyone making nice for old Oliver Cromwell!!Would you feel the same about old Bin Laden??Tut Tut.
             Cheers,Goggy

[Cell]

No disrespect to those of you who can (or wish to) claim blue blood ... but the day I encounter any member of the in-bred British royalty in my own direct ancestry is probably the day I'll want to hang up my researching cap!  

Paul


PS

Now a nice solid Cromwellian - that would be different 

  lol

I must be weird, I'm always very chuffed (pleased) when I find one of my relatives went to jail, or was born a bastard (saves me the trouble in tracing another male line  You know who your mum is, but  father's, well it is only who the mum says who the father is. If I had my way ,my tree would just be female lines - which of course are the hardest to do), or couples who weren't married for years, or  old couples living well into their late 80's in those days when many died young is always nice.
 I'd be most disappointed too with finding a royal in the family - not that there's much chance of that with my honest hardworking crims, unless they were robbing the royal households for lace hankies or animal  stock lol

I want to know what has happened to my and my hubby's , and thousand upon thousands of  other peoples poor ancestors who emigrated to America. Seems not many Americans are  related to them, but royals seem to breed a lot. It's amazing how many "common folk" went to America. I'll have my common coal mining , and farming ancestors back please - I'll love them even if nobody else will

I think I should go and  browse the net to adopt some posh rellies; It's not right I really like my common ag labs,  farmers, coalminers and sailors. Now who can I make my Ann Davies  to come from? There are thousands to choose from, born at the right date, right place. I Have a Llewellyn in my tree  that I can't  trace any further back with proof - now there's a possibility, I  can fit him into another tree , ah Welsh royalty- They didn't kill them all off after all lol, my Llewellyn ancestor escaped , he was the illegitimate son of Llewellyn The Last.

All in light humour 

[Paul E]

actually all humans are inbred. Just some are more so than others. I suggest you look up "the seven daughters of eve" and "mitochondrial dna"
that's one good example.

They certainly are, Tariana ... and as Cell says, a terribly high proportion of children born to each generation can be proven, through DNA testing, not to be the product of the 'claimed' father.

I'd love to see a comparison of the UK Royal Family's DNA results with DNA extracted from the remains of a royal even five or six generations ago - I think it would make interesting reaing!

As I said, no disrespect to those of you who enjoy claims of Royal descent, however.   I am sure there are a lot more arond than we probably imagine!