Livermore - Felsted/Felstead

[jolou27]

I am researching the Livermore's who as far as I can see originated from Felstead/Felsted, Essex. Am keen to learn about any Livermore's or generally anything about Felsted as there's not a lot that can be gleamed from books and the net - unless anyone has links to information.
I have only just started researching this part of my family history and so don't have a lot, hence any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

[Tati]

Hi Jolou,

Welcome to rootschat 

What century are you looking at? Any names to go on? Did you find them on the 1881 census free to search?

Do you have some specific names for people you would like us to try and trace?

Tanja   

[Greenonions]

Hi Jolou,
Just to get you started here are all the Livermores I could find in the 1841 cesus in Felsted.

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cock Green: Ezekial Livermore 40 ag lab, Elizabeth 35, William 11, Arthur 7, Sarah 4, Harriett 2
Cock Green : Shadrack Livermore  70 ag lab, Elizabeth  65
Milk Hill: Michael Livermore 65 ag lab, Elizabeth 55, Isaac 22.Sarah 15
Molehill Green: Elizabeth Livermore 68  poor widow
Molehill Green: Joseph Livermore 30 ag lab, Ann 25, Harriett 11, Hannah 7, Mary 5, Aaron 3
Molehill green: Joseph Livermore 30 ag lab, Eliza 30, Eliza 5, Moses 3, William 6
Molehill green: Samuel Livermore 25 ag lab, Sarah 25, James 8, Edmund 5, William 3, Susannah 4 months, Edward 65 ag lab, 
Common: Michael Livermore 30 ag lab, Mary 30
Common: Robert Livermore 40 ag lab, Mary 40, Martin 9, Mary 2
Common: James Livermore 55 ag lab
Green Courts Gate: Thomas Livermore 45 ag lab, Jane 30, Phoebe 7
Burlingstye Green: William Livermore 40 ag lab, Sarah 36, Sarah 17, William 12
Burlingstye green: Daniel Livermore 38 ag lab, Ann 39, George 15, Emma 13, Henry 10, Ezekial 8, Elizabeth 5, Susan 3, John 10 months
Whelpstones: Martha Livermore 65 poor widow
Grand Courts: James Livermore 20 m s

Good luck
Bob

[jolou27]

Thanks for that information - it was very helpful!
I think the second Joseph Livermore living in Molehill Green with his wife Eliza must be related. The 5 year old little girl Eliza must be great great grandmother as the birth year would be approximately the same and i knew her father was joseph and her mother eliza also. That family later went on to have another child called joseph livermore who was roughly 18 years younger than eliza, his sister. I didn't know she had other siblings as i had not got that information yet. I have some information on Moses Livermore, so I can put them all in my tree now perhaps!

Thanks once again, the kindness of strangers is truly remarkable

Jo

[cep]

That family later went on to have another child called joseph livermore who was roughly 18 years younger than eliza, his sister.

Then this would fit for the family in 1861:


1861 Felsted   RG9 1116 78 p30

Molehill Green
Joseph Livermore, head, mar, 53, Ag Lab, b. Felsted
Eliza Livermore, wife, mar, 52, b. Fairstead, Essex
Daniel Livermore, son, unm, 18, Ag Lab, b. Felsted
Joseph Livermore, son, 11, b. Felsted
Sarah Livermore, dau, 7, b. Felsted


Felsted is Dunmow district.   1851 Census is missing.


1861 Felsted   RG9 1116 69 p12

Willers (Willow?) Green
Moses Livermore, head, mar, 23, Ag Lab, b. Felsted
Eliza Livermore, wife, mar, 22, b. Rayne, Essex
William Livermore, son, 3, b. Felsted
Emily Livermore, dau, 2, b. Felsted
Peter Livermore, son, 5 mo, b. Felsted



Regards   CP

[jolou27]

Thanks so much for your help.
Is there anyway of finding out where the sister Eliza was on the 1861 census. As far as I know she had her first child William in 1863/4 - he was named Livermore as were all his siblings born later - they seem to have taken their mother's name i.e. they were illigetimate i presume. I have not managed to find out who any of Eliza's children's fathers were - were they the same unavailable man or more than one man. All I do know is that on her son, Arthur William Livermore's marriage certificate in 1911 his father's name and occupation were stroked through and no information entered.
I can't think of any way of finding out who their father was.

Jo

[Tati]

Hi Jo,

I think this could be her:
RG9/1115 114 19
Braintree, Essex
London Road
Eliza Livermore, serv, unm, 24, General servant domestic, b. Felsted Head of household is a Phebe Goose, 74, Funded Proprietor

Tanja 

PS In 1871, she's with her mother and her 2 children William age 7 and Kate age 1 in Felstead
Do you already have it?
RG10/1703 72 16

[jolou27]

Yes I do already have the image for 1871, thanks for asking though.
Living in the area myself, I think that London Road is the main road which goes between Braintree and Gt Leighs/Felsted area. Will have a look and check - does anyone know any good places on the net to obtain old maps of the UK

[Tati]

I think I have seen several postings about a site called - guess what  - old maps  http://www.old-maps.co.uk/

Tanja