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Re: Celia's Rake Lane + burial.look up
« Reply #540 on: Wednesday 27 February 08 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Celia and Mel thank you both so very much for your help.
Mel, the people you have in your records of the Davies Family Birkenhead are as follows:
Robert Davies; my great grandfather
Fanny (Frances)  Davies: my great grandmother
Charles Davies: my grandfather
My mother Esther Pearl Davies was Charles Daughter
Robert Davies has proved one of the most difficult to trace in my family tree.  I finally found the correct death certificate, but blowed if I can find his birth or marriage.   I do know who he married and her origins and that one of her nieces also married into the Davies Family.

There is another Davies family that marries into this one - via Isabella James Beatrice Davies  b:L'pool circa1839 who married James Lewis in 1862.  James Lewis is also a great grandfather of mine.
I do hope that we have some connections, please do let me know.
Regards
Kathb
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Baker/Cheshire,Crewe/Somerset
Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
Mackay/Mckay Caithness
Anderson/, Caithness
Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
Gunn/ Caithness
Smith/Caithness, Dunnet, Thurso, Castletown
Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
Sadlier Forster/Liverpool/Ireland, Cork

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Re: Celia's Rake Lane + burial.look up
« Reply #541 on: Wednesday 27 February 08 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kath
If you have a lot of Davies in your tree and they died in Birkenhead they are more than likely to have been buried in Flaybrick Especially 1800's.Rather that Rake lane.People usually,but not always get buried in the aria they live.So if yours died in Birkenhead and Mel has her own collection of Davies from Flaybrick.You could P.M her and she might have them.
I wish Rake Lane had the same facility as Flaybrick whereby once you find one burial and grave number you can just find the grave number on the film and it gives others in the grave.It doesn't though :( so you have to search one by one.Thats why you really need the approximate year for Rake Lane.If they lived this side of the river(you have to gross  over a bridge to get to Birkenhead)Then they might be in Rake lane ;D

Celia
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Rake Lane Burials

M.I.Merchant Marina's Rake Lane

FLORENCE JONES MARRIED JOHN GIBBON HIGNETT IN 1885

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« Reply #542 on: Thursday 28 February 08 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Sigrid
Albert Edward Lawley age 74
Buried 1st November 1950
51 Edgmond Street Secombe
M.O.B . 2nd Class Plot 17 C grave 287

I was positive it said Edgmond Stree, but I have checked
My street map to see if it’s still there but it isn’t. It will be
On his death cert though

Edith May Davies age 42
Buried 28th April 1953. 14 Lancaster Avenue Liscard
M.O.B 2nd class sec 17 Grave 539

Nellie Ryan age 58
Buried 27 September 1943
M.O.B 2nd class sec 16.
The above was difficult to read, and it wouldn’t enlarge,   two different hands making entries, one with tiny writing which this one was.
Plus this particular film copy is on blue cellophane ::)
The address is 11 and it looks like Dreadle street Secombe but again i cant find it as for the grave number I dont know what its supposed to say it has two dashes on the line well below the next letter one. Sorry about that,maybe i can find a better copy elswere. I didnt do Mary Ann Sayle 1990 because i dont think the burial go that far unless they have gone further, the last year i know of was the 1960's I will follow that up though.The staff were busy so didnt want to bother them again.

Celia
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Rake Lane Burials

M.I.Merchant Marina's Rake Lane

FLORENCE JONES MARRIED JOHN GIBBON HIGNETT IN 1885

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Re: Celia's Rake Lane + burial.look up
« Reply #543 on: Friday 29 February 08 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Celia, thanks very much for doing the lookups.  You did very well, considering they weren't easy to read.  I can also research the street names now, and see if I can find anything for them. 

I have four other people I want to find buriels for, but I haven't a clue as to their death dates.   When I was subscribed to ancestry I found a possible for one of them, for West Cheshire, although I think all four lived in the Wallasey/ Seacombe area. I don't know what cemetary/ies is/are covered for West Cheshire area.

Thanks very much again, glad to have some more information for my files. :)
Denbighshire: Names - Davie,s Roberts, Hughes, Williams, Phillips
Denbigh, Penythn, Ponciau, Ruabon, Ponciau
Flintshire: Names - Edwards
Ysgeifiog, Llanfwrog, Flint, Greenfield


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« Reply #544 on: Friday 29 February 08 16:10 GMT (UK) »
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I have four other people I want to find buriels for, but I haven't a clue as to their death dates.

When you find them you know where i am ;D
Happy hunting
Celia
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FLORENCE JONES MARRIED JOHN GIBBON HIGNETT IN 1885

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« Reply #545 on: Monday 14 April 08 18:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Celia,

I visited Rake Lane Cemetery on Saturday, and found some of the graves I wanted.
In one section 14g, I came across headstones, from before Rake Lane was opened. Looking at my family tree, I have them buried in Liscard Congregational Churchyard. Is this the section I would find most from the other Churchyard or are they dotted about all over.

Thanks

Mel
main family lines at
Wirral -( Davies, Wilson, Price, Redhead, Dawson)
Liverpool - ( Evans, Lowey, Pettigrew),
North Wales (Davies, Roberts, Owens, Gage),
Exeter (Martin, Hall, Davey, Sweetland, Follett),
Sprowston ( Stone, Germany),
Sheffield and Rotherham (Bailey/Beeley, Martin)

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« Reply #546 on: Monday 14 April 08 19:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Mel
Remind me whose headstones did you find ;D

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I came across headstones, from before Rake Lane was opened. Looking at my family tree, I have them buried in Liscard Congregational Churchyard. Is this the section I would find most from the other Churchyard or are they dotted about all over.
The problem of another church yards headstones in Rake Lane,cropped up a couple of years ago.No one seems to know anything about the records,where the stones were put which plot,where they destroyed,we never found out.Rake Lane (from the horses mouth ;D was badly planned.I think your best option is to Phone or visit Landican office and ask there.Because you cannot do a thing in Rake Lane without permission.So they MUST have a record of where the headstones are.
Hope this is of some help :)

Celia
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M.I.Merchant Marina's Rake Lane

FLORENCE JONES MARRIED JOHN GIBBON HIGNETT IN 1885

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« Reply #547 on: Monday 14 April 08 19:21 BST (UK) »
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I didnt do Mary Ann Sayle 1990 because i dont think the burial go that far unless they have gone further
They do go past the 60's the film looks new :)

Celia
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FLORENCE JONES MARRIED JOHN GIBBON HIGNETT IN 1885

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« Reply #548 on: Monday 14 April 08 19:23 BST (UK) »
Well looking at the map,, typical woman, I had to walk around the church a few times lol.... but now I have my bearings and will be back. :D
But the map can be confusing lol. I dont get lost with others :P

sent you the headstones in an email Celia.

Pity not like Landican and put all St Mary's in one place....pity councils didnt learn full stop.... I wonder if the bodies are still interred in Liscard just the headstones removed..... :o
I know that has happened in Sheffield General Cemetery. Council wanted to make it a public garden so destroyed headstones. Now it just looks like Birkenhead park. So annoying. >:(

Mel
main family lines at
Wirral -( Davies, Wilson, Price, Redhead, Dawson)
Liverpool - ( Evans, Lowey, Pettigrew),
North Wales (Davies, Roberts, Owens, Gage),
Exeter (Martin, Hall, Davey, Sweetland, Follett),
Sprowston ( Stone, Germany),
Sheffield and Rotherham (Bailey/Beeley, Martin)