Celia's Rake Lane + burial.look up

[SPlumb]

Hi

thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I am in South Africa so a bit far to go. I'd love to be able to trawl through library records but have to make do with what's available on the net.

regards


SPlumb

[celia]

Hi SPlumb
not sure if you know it or not but people living in wirral are all registered in Birkenhead.So i will lookup the burials for the latter names.If you have any other names let me know the main details Name, year of death,and I will see if i can find them in rake lane first.I don't suppose you know which part of Birkenhead your ancestors lived re the census do you.As the burial records give the abode which might come in handy seeing it will be a blind search

Celia

[SPlumb]

Hi

thanks for offering to look these up:- (don't know whether they are in Rake Lane).

Petrie -David b1846 d1886 (he lived in Cleveland Rd Birkenhead)
Rossi - Emily Kate (nee Ward) b1861 died between 1885 & 1918
Bassnett - John b1882 died after 1916 (lived in New Brighton)
Bassnett - Bertha b1878 d1919 (lived in New Brighton)
Bloor - Joshua b1862 died after 1919
Bloor - Ellen b1863

best regards

SPlumb

[celia]

Thanks SPlumb
i will get back to you in a couple of days

Celia

[celia]

Hi Splumb
I had a look for the burial with the definite death year,on the C.O.E film but no luck i am afraid.The problem with the burials and other research, is they are under religion, R.C. C.O.E. Non.Con. which is important when doing lookups.Because they are on different films,so if your family were not C.O.E. they wont be found there.It cant be expected that people know their ancestors religion from the 1800 (it does helps heaps though )so it's a case of looking through the films. Actually i have just had a thought the surest way of finding where someone is buried is to look for an orbit.I have found loads(for others )and i have had others find them for me I will have a look for one for Bertha.Cant do the others till you find a death year. If you can find death year for John Bassnett & Joshua Bloor that will be good and the 1/4 if possible.Then i wont have to go through 48 newspapers each time;D                                                                                            Celia

[celia]

Hi Splumb
Bet you thought i had forgotten you
as you can see on my post i didn't find the burial in Rake lane.C.O.E
However i did look in the M.I. for Rake Lane and none of the names  you listed are in the files.Being a 1919 death for Bertha i reckoned there should be a headstone.So she obviously isn't there.I have since found the registration for the death of Bertha Bassnett  aged 41 it was registered in Macclesfield on the other side of Cheshire. Did she move there  at sometime or have rellies there .Of John i can find no trace at all,the few Bassnett's that there are,are mostly registered in liverpool W.Derby.Only two registered in wirral as far i i went which was 1930 something. One a child was registered in wirral but that had aged 0 so presumably died at birth or a few hours after. The other was Thomas Bassnett reg B/Head 1923.

Regards Celia

[chrisaw]

Hi Celia - wonder if you can help.

I've been tracing my ancestry recently, and through my research into my dad's line (Woodburn) have made contact with a cousin in South Africa.  I've put him in touch with my mum who still lives in Wallasey, and he has recently written to her to say he will be in the country in June/July of this year.  He intends to try to further his research while here and has asked her if she could try to find the graves of his and my common ancestors, Frederick Woodburn and his wife Mary.

Unfortunately, as far as I know he has been unable to find their years of death, and I haven't had any joy with online searches.  What we do know is listed below.

Frederick Woodburn
Born:  1856 in Cockermouth
Married:  1886 in St Nicholas Church, Liverpool

to

Mary Winstanley
Born:  1863 in Chester

They had nine children and were still alive in 1918, and living in Rappart Road, Seacombe, when one of their sons, Frederick Winstanley Woodburn died in WW1.  They will have been CofE (given the church where they married).

I am convinced that years ago I was cutting through Wallasey Cemetery to Earlston Library when I chanced upon a headstone with the name Frederick Woodburn on it, and my South African cousin seems convinced that they would be there too.  My mum is in her 80's and tends to worry about letting people down, and I live on the opposite side of the country now, so am really limited to online searches.

I do hope you can help with this.  Thanks for any time you can find for any look-ups.   

[celia]

Hello Chris  Welcome to Rootschat

From England to Africa and back,how wonderfull.I will help you all i can but trying to find a burial without a year or near even for me takes a long time going through the films.BUT, you maybe in luck, a few months ago i found a new source whereby i can look up burial without knowing the year, and religion, not every single burial is on the records but it will save me heaps of time if it is . Tell you mum not to worry if there are buried in Rake lane i will do my best to find them you never know she might remember something she thinks is relevant ,but important to us.I went through all deaths on the G.R.O and like you didn't find them. if they died in England they should be on the G.R.O. I will go through them again though because it was late and i was a bit cross eyed I had wondered if they might have been cremated,but Landican didn't open till the 1930's.The only reference i could find for Frederick was his birth in Cumbria.Nothing after that ,i found these deaths district wallasey reg wirral on the U.K B.M.D. If these names are any connection to you maybe we can start there This doesn't mean they are in rake lane though.

1887 Alice  Woodburn age 75
1896 Robert Barber Woodburn age 68
1900 William James Woodburn age 75.

For William James (if yours) i will have a look on the newspaper films in the 1900 editions.I might be lucky and find an article which gives lots of information.Even an small entry in the orbit column might help,they don't give much info though. Anyway i will see what i can put together for you,i have a few weeks before the your cousins visit. So that gives me plenty of time for trips to the library.

Best wishes Celia

[chrisaw]

Thanks for agreeing to try for me.   

As far as I'm aware the three names you listed aren't direct relations to Frederick Woodburn.  I think out of his family he was the only one who made the journey down from Cumbria to the Wirral (although it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that he chose the area because there were already distant cousins living there).

Here's a link to my South African cousins research http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=354819&id=I15, which contains more detail on Frederick and Mary's children than I have, as I've just concentrated on Frank, who was my grandfather.  Perhaps there's a nugget of information in there that might be of use to you.