Marriage lookup Batham/Champlovier

[jacoby28]

Can anyone help with a marriage between William Batham and Mary Champlovier (various spellings) before  c1837 when they were living in the Kensington area?     Any assistance or pointers will be much appreciated.    Thanks...................Jack

[kennyb]

Hi Jack, the only William Batham I could find on the IGI was married to a Maria Wheatly 8/8/1836. Paddington.
                                      KenB

[jacoby28]

Hello Ken,
  Thanks for that,  but the one I'm after is the generation before.....This one's a real rascal trying to tie down,   but they're hiding there somewhere!....Thanks for trying.        Jack

[Bryant]

Hello Jack

I'm looking at some of the oldies and came across this one............

The name of Champlovier is akin to rocking horse something or other....not much about...............come to that the name of Batham is somewhat similiar!

At first glance they don't appear to be around in 1841...........they are it's just a matter of finding them and under what name?

1861
3&4 COAL YARD, ST GILES, LONDON, MIDDX
MARY CHAMPELOVIER   HEAD  56 (WID)  LAUNDRESS    CORSHAM, WILTSHIRE
JAMES        "                  SON    26 porter to a club house       ST GILES, MIDDX
FREDERICK "                     "      22 hammerman to a blacksmith     "
FRANCIS     "                     "      16 apprentice to a bookbinder       "
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*FREDERICK was born March qtr of 1839 Bloomsbury
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1861
14 WILLIAM STREET, KENSINGTON, ST MARY ABBOTS, LONDON, MIDDX
JOHN CHAMPELOVIER    HEAD  24  PLASTERER   KENSINGTON, MIDDX
ELIZABETH    "               WIFE   23  LAUNDRESS            "
JOHN             "                SON    3                                  "
HENRY           "                  "        1                                  "
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1861
67 SUDBURY ALPERTON, HARROW, MIDDX
CHARLES CHAMPOLOVIER   HEAD  36 (UNM)                  LONDON, MIDDX    (crippled)
FREDERICK WILLIAMS        SERV    14 GENERAL SERVANT   KENSINGTON, MIDDX
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BIRTHS........HENRY CHAMPELOVIER....KENSINGTON...SEPT 1839
                   ELIZABETH CHAMPELOVIOR....KENSINGTON....JUN 1841


The question is..............where are any of these in 1841 and under what name?

Bryant

[jennifer c]

Hi have found the spelling Champeleyer over in Notting Hill in 1860.

Jennifer

[jacoby28]

Hello Bryant and Jennifer,    Thanks for taking the time to look 'em up for me.    Spent last week in Devon chasing the distaff side....Less elusive too.
 I have Champloviers in 1841 on HO107/1468/610/46  and /611/48 living in the Potteries or Notting Dale....(North) Kensington. 1861 Widow Mary of Corsham is living with husband Henry age 48 b St Giles,  a general dealer, with family, Charles 26,  James 26,John 15, Henry 11, George 7,  and daughter Jane, aged 4.
My William Batham is a few doors down the same road aged 66,  with wife Mary b St Giles,  (nee Champlovier) and sons George and Edward........Looks as though I've got to go to London and look at St Giles to get any further back with them.
Again,  Thanks for the input..............Jack B

[Bryant]

Hello Jack

Now I always thought that origins network has the best transcribing for the 1841 that you'll get....anywhere! but a census reference doesn't mean anything ie I can't input it!

CHAMPLOVIER all variants/all Counties brings up = 0 for 1841

So............can you tell me the name/spelling/age/and county/parish they are in in 1841 please...........I feel so much happier when iv'e seen them!

Bryant

[jacoby28]

You certainly have a way with words.
Unfortunately,  as these are paper copies of originals which I've had for several years, I'm unable to cut and paste,  and my typing skills are probably appropriate for the average eighty-year old.  Hence my attempt at transcribing fell somewhat short of your standards.  Herewith revised attempt :-

Parish  Kensington (part of)
 Ecclesiastic District  St James (part of)
Street name   Potteries or Notting Dale

HENRY CHAMPLOVER  Head M  48   General Dealer   Mdx St Giles
ELIZABETH DO            Wife       46                             Wilts Cosham
CHARLES    DO            Son       26   Cattle Dealer      MdxClerkenwell
JAMES        DO            Son        26   Labourer             ''        ''     ''
JOHN         DO             Son       16        ''     ''               ''     Potteries
HENRY       DO            Son        11        ''     ''               ''          ''
GEORGE    DO             Son        7                                ''          ''
JANE          DO             Dau       4                                 ''         ''

The census reference remains the same HO107/1468/611/48  and it is 1841.
Hope you find this easier to understand.................... Jack  B

[CatOne]

Thats the 1851 census, just looked it up on ancestry 

(1841 doesn't state places of birth, just Y for born in county or N for Not born in county)