Wileman Measham, Derbys (Leics)1819

[carol59]

I am looking for the parents of Richard Wileman whose birth/baptism was in 1819 at Measham.  I have arranged to travel from berkshire to derbyshire on 7 sep but have found that the Derbys record office do not cover 1819 for measham as it is in the leics office.  wd be very grateful for any help.

[Al in Vane]

Hi Carol59,

                 Yes Measham is in Leicestershire.
I have looked on the IGI and Richard Wileman was christened in Measham on 11 April 1819. His parents were William and Susanna Wileman.

I then looked for the marriage and William Wileman wed on 25 December 1815 at Measham but to Mary Wright which suggests that he married twice and Mary probably died soon after the marriage, possibly in childbirth, a fairly regular occurrance in those days. There is no record on the IGI of a wedding to Susanna.
                       Regards, Al.

[Al in Vane]

Hi again Carol59,

                           Further to my first message Richard's father William Wileman was christened at Measham on 23 March 1788 to John and Sarah. It looks as though Measham was a veritable den of Wilemans as was Earl Shilton where a Richard Wileman wed Susanna Taylor on 18 February 1812? Most of the Measham Wilemans appear to have been miners with the odd boatman thrown in.

                Al

[Al in Vane]

Carol59,

             Apologies, it was William Wileman who married Susanna Taylor at Earl Shilton in 1812. Could these have been the parents of your Richard although other children of theirs were christened in Earl Shilton

                        Al

[carol59]

Thanks Al for your information, I have checked out the children of William and Susannah and there is a son Richard born in 1819 but he appears to have died as a child so i am not sure whether the Earl Shilton Susannah is the right one.
I am sure that William is Richards father as  i have richards marriage cert, its finding his mother that seems to be a problem particularly as there were a few William Wilemans around.  Perhaps his mother is a different Susannah.
If you have any brainwaves on this, please let me know. thanks for your efforts so far.

[winston]

Hi

Just thought I'd show this list of Richard Wileman's death, see the one in blue

1. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 19 JUN 1865 age 1MTH at BLACKFORDBY in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

2. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 3 JUN 1823 age 9MTHS at MEASHAM in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

3. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 7 JUL 1829 age 1 at MEASHAM in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

4. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 30 DEC 1852 age 6 at MEASHAM in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

5. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 6 DEC 1877 age 63 at MEASHAM in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

6. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 25 FEB 1822 age 64 at EARL SHILTON in county of LEI Comments (JUNR)(BACHELOR)
Amount paid £0.05

7. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 1 MAR 1825 age 5YRS 4MTHS at EARL SHILTON in county of LEI Comments SON OF WILLIAM & SUSANNA
Amount paid £0.05
8. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 2 APR 1850 age 72 at EARL SHILTON in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

9. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 10 JAN 1877 age 71 at EARL SHILTON in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

10. RICHARD WILEMAN buried 13 FEB 1879 age 41 at HINCKLEY ST MARY in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05


Wendy

[winston]

Hi Saw this and thought of you

1851 census for Leicester

Piece 2090 Folio 321 Page 5 Address ST.NICHOLAS ST Name WILLIAM WILEMAN Rel HEAD Cond M Age 38 Sex M Occupation BASKET MAKER 4 MEN Birth place MEASHAM in county DBY Blind/Df/Db –
Amount paid £0.09

2. Piece 2090 Folio 321 Page 5 Address ST.NICHOLAS ST Name SARAH WILEMAN Rel WIFE Cond M Age 39 Sex F Occupation – Birth place MKT.HARBORO' in county LEI Blind/Df/Db –
Amount paid £0.09

3. Piece 2090 Folio 321 Page 5 Address ST.NICHOLAS ST Name WILLIAM BURN Rel NEPH Cond – Age 3 Sex M Occupation – Birth place MOIRA in county LEI Blind/Df/Db –
Amount paid £0.09

Wendy

[winston]

Hi,

also came cross these Susannah's death

1. SUSANNAH WILEMAN buried 4 FEB 1837 age 2 at MEASHAM in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

2. SUSANNAH WILEMAN buried 29 JUL 1848 age 68 at MEASHAM in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

3. SUSANNAH WILEMAN buried 5 MAY 1854 age 28 at MEASHAM in county of LEI Comments
Amount paid £0.05

Wendy

[Al in Vane]

Hi Carol59,

                 I still think Susanna was the second wife of William but a good trawl through the Measham Registers would I think solve your problem. The IGI leaves out more than it shows, it is really useful but the true picture can only be found in the actual registers. I am sure the Earl Shilton branch had some connection to the Measham one as many of the children in both cases were very similar and usually a pattern emerges in related families.
                             Good luck in your research,

                                                                       Al