Hannah Mary Price look up request 1871\81\91

[hobnob123]

Hannah Mary Price lived at 19 North Durham St, Sunderland at some point; it is the only address i have , I would like to find her on a  census, can anyone help please.

[bekahsgran]

Hi
Have you a date of birth for her? Or something that will hep search for her?
Anne

[hobnob123]

Hi
Have you a date of birth for her? Or something that will help search for her?
Anne

This is a difficult one . I enclose a recent letter  which explains why!Sorry its so lengthy but it is intriguing!

My grandmother, Hannah Walkden died recently at the age of 88.  She was born Hannah Isabella Price in 1915 at 3 Freehold Terrace, Guidepost Choppington, Northumberland and lived there until she married.  Northumberland continued to be hugely important to her even though she only ever came back as a visitor.

Unfortunately Hannah spent her life not knowing anything about her paternal family.  Her father Harry Price married Ethel Tingle shortly before the First World War broke,  but  was killed at the Somme aged 31.  Hannah was just a baby.  Harry's address at the time of marriage was 12 Mowbray Terrace, Choppington.  Hannah was told her father was brought up by an Isabella Widdowfield (a 50 year old nurse born 27/1/1835, baptized 19/4/1835) and that he had been born with a twin sister.  Harry and his twin's birth mother was a Hannah Mary Price who had to give them up for adoption.  Her last recorded address was 19 North Durham St , Sunderland but at what point in time I do not know.  I believe the birth was registered by Isabella, the nurse in 1908.

The story Hannah, my grandmother told was unsubstantiated but  would explain the "silence" surrounding her father's background. Apparently Hannah Mary Price worked for the Percy household and it was whilst in service  she became pregnant with the twins.  I presume this would mean at Alnwick castle.  As this was obviously a scandalous situation I suppose there is a chance that such a situation would be documented somewhere as the twins had to be found homes etc.

Hobnob123

[Michael Dixon]

hobnob123, ( call I call you hobnob for short ? )

None of the people you listed are turning up on relevant censuses ( probably because, the time scale is too modern) and maybe I am looking in the wrong places.

Cannot see any Isabelle Widdowfield, widow born 1835. Did she die before 1901 census ?

Where and when was Harry Price born? Was he a Harry when born or a Henry ? What was name of his twin sister ?

Where was Harry before he was in Guidepost/Choppington ?

Be aware that this will not be the first tale of a servant becoming pregnant in service with the Percy's.

So was Harry born in Alnwick area ?

Michael Dixon,
Blyth, Northumberland

[hobnob123]

Hi dixymick
Sure you can call me Hobnob for short.

>Cannot see any Isabella Widdowfield, widow born 1835. Did she die before 1901 census ?

I know quite a bit about Isabella (b jan 1835) she was the daughter of Robert Widdowfield (iron founder) and Elizabeth Hepplewhite of Moorgate St Sunderland. My mother has a baptism certificate for Isabella.She was a 50 yr oldnurse ,she might have delivered the twins  and then looked after the boy .  I believe Isabella took a copy of  the birth certificate of Harry in 1908 so she was alive in the 1901 census.

>Where and when was Harry Price born? Was he a Harry when born or a Henry ? What was the name of his twin sister ?

Harry Price was born 5am on May 23 1885 ,a Harry not a Henry. My mother has a second copy(and the first 1908) of the birth certificate taken in1951.The birth certificate was issued in the subdistrict of south bishopswearmouth Sunderland and the address at time of birth for the mother was 19 Durham Street although i think this was only written on the 1951 copy!. We only know through word of mouth the mother was a maidservant. Perhaps she left home to be a maidservant(Alnwick?) and came back home to have the twins (it has always been said that Harry had a twin sister but absolutely nothing more is known)

Mother/ Hannah Mary Price  19 North Durham Street  Sunderland
Father says unknown on birth certificate
but confusingly it says on the marriage certificate (27 th December 1913)of Harry Price to Ethel Tingle ( of 26 Dove St Sunderland at time of marriage) it says a Harry Price , a ship broker, was Harry's father's name, but deceased! Why was this put down!
My grandmother was named after her real mother Hannah and her foster mother Isabella to become Hannah Isabella Price.The story i have been told has always been trotted out by my grandmother about her Father and was told to her by Ethel Tingle, Harry's widow. The Tingles came from Pallion in Sunderland.
We Also know  the regiment of Harry Price he joined and that he was a coal miner at (probably)  Choppington Colliery before he signed up for the army. Harry lived at at 12 Mowbray terrace  Guidepost Choppington presumably moving there with his mother from Sunderand when he was old enough to leave school age 14 and work circa 1899 but this is speculation as his future bride was still in  Sunderland the address given at time of her marriage.


>Be aware that this will not be the first tale of a servant becoming pregnant in service with the Percy's

Ok , i have actually written to the Castle but they did not find
anything in household records.

Hobnob

[Michael Dixon]

Hobnob, First contact !

Census 1891.

Ref.. Piece 4177 Folio 18 Page 4.

Family Address: 94 Lower Cuthbert Street, Gateshead
( North West ward).

Head. William Widowfield, widower, 62, Iron Moulder, born Newcastle.
Son, William Widowfield, unmarried, 27, Gen Labourer, b. Newcastle.
Sister, Isabella Grunert, widow, 56, b. Sunderland
Sister Jemima Widowfield, u/m, 50, b. Sunderland.
Boarder, Henry Price, 5, b. Sunderland.

Michael Dixon

[Michael Dixon]

Hobnob,

Contact No 2.

Census 1901.
Ref Piece 4713 Folio 18 Page 27
Address 27 Lawrence Street, Hendon, Sunderland.

Head, Isabella Grunert, widow, 66, charwoman, b.Sunderland.

By herself in the house.

Michael Dixon