1851 Look up please - BELCH - Westbury?

[Dave Male]

Good Evening 

I would be grateful for any information regarding the family which includes Thomas Belch born c1842 - subsequent censuses show him to be in the Westbury area, but this is not certain for 1851.

Kind Regards - Dave

[Sisterjane]

Now dont ask me how I have come to this conclusion but I have, dont remember how i got to here coz its hours since i started looking for your man but i think ive nailed him,see what you think
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1851 cencus Tipton-Staffordshire
HO1072029-146
Upper Green
They are both transcribed and enumerated as BACH and were probably called BALCHthey are on the IGI anyway
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Richard 41 head b Bitterley-Shropshire  Coal miner
Maria 38 wife b         "               "
Thomas 11 son b Dudley-Worcs
Sarah Ann 5 dau b Tipton
William Henry 2m son b Tipton
Elizabeth Millender     Servant

IGI also as Maria as Margaret

Joe

[JClarke]

Hi Joe (& Dave)

This had me going as well!

Unfortunately if you check the Richard & Maria family in 1861 then Thomas is still living with them. The Thomas that Dave is looking for, is a servant on Hurst Farm in Westbury at the time of the 1861 census (assuming I’ve got the one he’s referring too!).

Anyway, this is my best calculated guess (although his age is dodgy).

1851 Wales (don't you love places on the border)
Ref: HO107/1991/166 Page 15
Address: Crew Green, Township of Bauseley (a couple of miles north west of Alberbury – his birth place quoted in 1861)

Thomas Jones – Head – M – 31 – Maltster 1 man 1 boy – Montgomery, Guildsfield
Martha Jones – Wife – M – 29 – Montgomery, Lland?nio
La??sa Jones – Daur – 6 – Montgomery, Alberbury
Infant – Daur – 1month – Montgomery, Alberbury
Elizabeth Jones – Visitor – U – 28 – Montgomery, Guildsfield
Thomas Bel?h – Servt – U – 1? – Montgomery, Alberbury
Thomas Pryce – Servant – Widower – 61 – Malt Maker – Montgomery, Guildsfield

? in place of unreadable letters. I can’t honestly make the missing letter a ‘c’ in his surname. The second figure on his age may be 4, hence the age being a bit dodgy.

Anyway, it’s the best I can come up with. Good luck with the hunt.

John

[Sisterjane]

WoW John, thank goodness you have found the right one as I could have sent Dave down the road to hell!!!!!!!. I just never thought to venture into Wales . Well done you deserve a medal for that.
So Dave scrub my post as i think you have him now

Joe

[JClarke]

Hi again

Got so fixed on Thomas that I forgot the family.

1851 Wales
Ref: HO107/1991/160 Page 2
Address: Caydway, Bauseley. (think it might be Coedway now – between Alberbury and Crew Green)

All surnames Bel?h (a ‘c’, who knows – looks more like an ‘s’ to me)

Richard – Head – M – 3? – Farm Labourer – Salop,
Margaret – Wife – M – 37 – Montgomery, Bau?ley
John – Son – 13
Mary – Daur – 7
Jane – Daur – 3
Sarah – Daur – 5 – Scholar
William – Son – 10m

The second figure for Richard may be 4. All the children share the same birth place as Margaret – guess it’s Bauseley but it’s squeezed in on the form. I confirm the ages, don’t know why they are out of order?

Ah – I can go to bed now.

All the best
John

Thanks Joe - Cheers

[Sisterjane]

Hi again John
I saw the Bausely connection on the 1881 which says that Richard and Margaret were both born Bausley, Shropshire plus i didnt realise Shropshire is so close to Wales maybe thats what threw me
 

Joe

[Dave Male]

Hi Joe and John

Super effort by you both - many thanks indeed.

The surname of Belch, just about sums up my feelings for searching for this chap - and now he's been found in Wales with more stomach churning place names to consider.

Very Grateful to you Both - Kind Regards - Dave

[Sisterjane]

Hi Dave IM desperatly hoping that the family John found is yours he really did go digging to find it and i feel ive bagged myself a new rootschat mate in him and we have had a good laugh both on the boards and by PM tonight

Joe

[Dave Male]

Hi Joe

Glad that we've all had some fun with this - a glutton for punishment, I've now posted a request for the 1841 information also. - feel sure that John found our man.


See that you are a night bird also?

KR Dave