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Harriet green nottingham b 1843 look up request census 1841\51
« on: Friday 28 October 05 14:44 BST (UK) »
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I am trying to locate a Harriet Green born Nottingham 1843. I believe she had  5 brothers and one sister . Please could someone try and locate her please in the 1841 and 1851 census please.
Whatley Williams Dent Walkden Holdsworth Price

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Re: Harriet green nottingham b 1843 look up request census 1841\51
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 October 05 17:08 BST (UK) »
Hi

Do you know who her parents were? also names of siblings ?


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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: Harriet green nottingham b 1843 look up request census 1841\51
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 October 05 20:40 BST (UK) »
Hi

Do you know who her parents were? also names of siblings ?


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Hello
Unfortunately not, i tend to know later facts IE the boys all joined the Coldstream or Grenadier guards and for some reason that they were all over 6 ft tall and that Harriet married George Dent which i have managed to investigate.I only know that the Greens  were a "Nottingham family". Painfully little isn't it !

I know the names that Harriet and George called their kids although i tend to think Amy might have been George's mother's name because a possible search for him revealed a mother of this name. Below are their kids from the 81c just in case the first names tie in..
 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
George DENT   Head   M   Male   41   Clapham, Middlesex, England   Mariner
Harriet DENT   Wife   M   Female   38   Nottingham, England
G. C. DENT   Son      Male   14  <1867>   Liverpool, Lancashire, England   Scholar
Amy M. DENT   Daur  Female 11  <1870>   Liverpool, Lancashire, England   Scholar
Herbert DENT   Son   Male   6 <1875>    Liverpool, Lancashire, England   Scholar
Ellen L. DENT   Daur      Female   2 <1879>   Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Alfred DENT   Son      Male   2 m <1881>    Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Whatley Williams Dent Walkden Holdsworth Price

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Re: Harriet green nottingham b 1843 look up request census 1841\51
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 October 05 21:28 BST (UK) »
Hi

I think you need to get a copy of Harriet & George's marriage certificate to confirm the father's name.

The only Harriet I can find is this one, but the records are not complete

Harriet Green baptised 19.02.1843 Radford to John & Mary Green- Framesmith

siblings -

Robert 18.06.1826
Alfred 12.10.1828
Emma 03.07.1831
John Freeman 12.10.1834
Jane 18.09.1836

All baptised at Radford


Where did you get the information from that she had 5 brothers and 1 sister?

Sunflower
Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: Harriet green nottingham b 1843 look up request census 1841\51
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 October 05 08:23 BST (UK) »
Hi

I think you need to get a copy of Harriet & George's marriage certificate to confirm the father's name.

The only Harriet I can find is this one, but the records are not complete

Harriet Green baptized 19.02.1843 Radford to John & Mary Green- Framesmith

siblings -

Robert 18.06.1826
Alfred 12.10.1828
Emma 03.07.1831
John Freeman 12.10.1834
Jane 18.09.1836

All baptized at Radford


Where did you get the information from that she had 5 brothers and 1 sister?

Sunflower

Hi Sunflower
What i have written down is "word of mouth" told to me by my Dad from the grand daughter of George and Harriet .This was written down at least  15 years ago when one could be more confident in what was being said. However the old lady (Thora 95 and still alive) is  is an intelligent person  and unlikely to embellish.. however the same can not be said for her mother Ellen Louise Dent(not alive!!).
Stories do change as i have recently discovered ; George Dent(m Harriet Green)  a mariner was meant to have been shipwrecked on the Empress of India ,or so i was told ,(again by word of mouth )surviving a shipwreck with only his night shirt on and clutching a ring . I now believe that Ellen Louise Dent ,Thora's mother( who was well known by my dad, her grandson, for elaborating )might have changed the details -because i have found details of a George Dent in 1881 (ships in port 1881)on the SS city of Brussels which sank  at 6.45am in the Mersey estuary in 1883 after colliding with another ship. I think Ellen who was quite well off through her husband was slightly ashamed of her families humble origons and changed the boats name because she didn't like the fact that George was not on a grander vessel and only a steward.

 With regard to your suggestion of getting a wedding certificate for Harriet and George i have not manage to find a record of the marriage on freebmd. Have you any ideas how the certificate could be found?

By the way i have been told that Harriet went to America, age 18, to see her sister who had married an American in Philadelphia and it was on board ship that Harriet met George Dent, the steward whom she married . They came back and lived in Liverpool , we  know that from from Ellen Louise Dent on the above census and subsequent family history.

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Whatley Williams Dent Walkden Holdsworth Price

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Re: Harriet green nottingham b 1843 look up request census 1841\51
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 October 05 09:21 BST (UK) »
Hi again

You could try these sites

www.BMDindex.co.uk
www.1837online.com

It's also worth visiting your local Family History Society library or Records Office. Most of these keep this information on micorfiche which is free to search.

Good luck

Sunflower
Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk