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Re: 2 James McMahon's. Could they be the same person?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 October 13 01:59 BST (UK) »
The tree also has uploaded the 1899 marriage cert for David McMAHON. 
12 December 1899 married in the District of Adelaide. 
David McMAHON  32,  Bachelor, (Trade or Calling) Engineer, (Residence at time of Marriage) Adelaide, (Name and Surname of Father)  James McMahon,
(Place in which celebrated) : Rev J Thome's House, Franklin St, Adelaide

From the submitted tree they have uploaded a TROVE newspaper cutting.

Here's the link re the death of Emma Lillian McMahon in 1940 in South Australia
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/35663500 30 Jan 1940 The Advertiser.

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Re: 2 James McMahon's. Could they be the same person?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 23 October 13 08:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks JM for this information. As regards the DNA testing we were matched after I took a test with a company in the US earlier this year. I have been in contact with my match in Australia but it is proving difficult to get any information from him other than what I have posted. I realise that I may have to look elsewhere my family tree for the connection but at the moment this James McMahon connection is the strongest candidate. At the very least I would like to be able to rule him out altogether and start again.

The family tree information posted by you is new to me so I might try and follow up on that.
Thanks again for the extra information. If I find a solution to this puzzle I'll be sure to post it.

Regards,
Noel.

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Re: 2 James McMahon's. Could they be the same person?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 October 13 08:14 BST (UK) »
Which part of Ireland did he come from?  I think a search of trove with McMahon and the town/county of Ireland could be fruitful - well you never know.

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Re: 2 James McMahon's. Could they be the same person?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 23 October 13 08:27 BST (UK) »
I'll give it a go. He came from Feakle, Co. Clare. Going by the submitted family tree above it looks as if Davids father died in Adelaide 1895. This would definately rule out the connection as my James McMahon returned home and died in 1923. Also the date birth in ~1833 and date of coming to Australia in 1955 dosent fit with my time line.

Ill go back to the drawing board today and see what other options I can come up with.

Cheers,
Noel.


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Re: 2 James McMahon's. Could they be the same person?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 27 October 13 18:23 GMT (UK) »
Assuming the submitted trees are correct we have the following:

 - James McMahon married 1963 Adelaide. (No record)
 - Oldest son John McMahon
 - Son David McMahon born 1867. (Cannot find a birth record for him.) Married in Adelaide 1899.

I have found a birth of a John McMahon in St Paul, Coburg, Victoria, Australia. 01 Feb 1864.
Father: James McMahon, Mother: Joanna Herlikey.

Its the best I can come up with so far and I realise that geographically it might not make sense. Cant find a marriage record for James McMahon/Joanna Herlikey which might help me further.

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Re: 2 James McMahon's. Could they be the same person?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 27 October 13 23:44 GMT (UK) »
I have found a birth of a John McMahon in St Paul, Coburg, Victoria, Australia. 01 Feb 1864.
Father: James McMahon, Mother: Joanna Herlikey.

Vic BDM records are very detailed.   And you can download immediately via your plastic card.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html   (What to expect on Vic BDM)

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage   (plastic card spending spot, using the ref no. below)


BUT I  notice there are other births for the name of John McMAHON and Johanna HERLIHY   May I suggest if you are going to use that plastic card, you try for Michael McMAHON, son of James McMahon and Johanna Herlihy ?    I would expect that birth cert to include names of older siblings, as well as the details of the marriage, birth places etc of Michael's parents  ;D

The ref no. is 20402

May I gently remind you that McMahon was and still is a popular surname in each of the states of Australia.   

   

Cheers,  JM


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Re: 2 James McMahon's. Could they be the same person?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 28 October 13 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks JM,
I followed up on that birth record:

There were 8 children listed:

John b.1864, Michael b. 1866, James b. 1867, William Hugh b. 1869, Thomas Christopher b. 1872, Peter b. 1874, Mary Margaret Ang b. 1875 & Arthur Bernard b. 1879.

Father: James McMahon born Co. Cavan Ireland. (Long way from Co. Clare)
Mother: Johanna Herlihy born Co. Cork Ireland.

No David unfortunately. Checked James (b.1867) birth cert for a second name but none there.

Back to the drawing board so.

Thanks again for all the help.
Noel.

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Re: 2 James McMahon's. Could they be the same person?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 28 October 13 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

In case at sometime in the future, someone who is related to your chap, stumbles across this thread (Google search etc), would you mind posting the details from the VIC birth cert re the marriage of that James McMAHON and Johanna HERLIHY please.

Also, may I suggest that you consider sharing the BDM as there are likely other registrations on that image.  Here is one of a number of links that are interested in helping with certs and contact details.
 http://ausbdm.ucoz.org/

Cheers,  JM
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Re: 2 James McMahon's. Could they be the same person?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 December 13 18:24 GMT (UK) »
Apologies for not following up on this, I haven't been on for a while.

Father: James McMahon born 1840 Lavey, Co. Cavan Ireland.
Mother: Johanna Herlihy born 1839 Banteer, Co. Cork Ireland.

Married: February 1863, Adelaide, SA.

Children: All possibly born, Bourke County, Victoria.

John b.1864, Michael b. 1866, James b. 1867, William Hugh b. 1869, Thomas Christopher b. 1872, Peter b. 1874, Mary Margaret Ang b. 1875 & Arthur Bernard b. 1879.

I also e-mailed the certs to contact at the link above.

Thanks again for all the help.
Noel.