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Technical Help / Re: Adding pictures to forum posting
« on: Tuesday 01 December 09 12:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Guys,

I'll give it another try tonight otherwise I'll just need to wait until the "otherside" responds and I'll send the pics by email.


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Technical Help / Adding pictures to forum posting
« on: Tuesday 01 December 09 10:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I wanted to add some pictures to a forum posting but after adding the necessary pics (yes, they were within the size limits) and clicking "Post", after a few minutes I got a "Page not found" error.

Can anyone advise please.

Thanks

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Occupation Interests / Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« on: Monday 30 November 09 13:06 GMT (UK)  »
>>By the way are you researching your own family tree?

Did some research a while back and passed this on to my daughter. Managed to dig out quite a few birth/death/marriage certificates too thanks to the various census documents.

Allen

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Occupation Interests / Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« on: Monday 30 November 09 12:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mog,

I'm fascinated by the term "Tornographer" and how that came about. The Greek "Tornos" translates as "Lathe" so I would guess that maybe they used a lathe to turn the wax seal dies or even the handles but creating the actual wording on the die would need some other technology.

Interesting to see if Nick picks up these posts.

Allen

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Occupation Interests / Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« on: Monday 30 November 09 12:19 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Mog,

I'll give it another try this evening when I get home from work.

The quality and detail of these things is amazing. As I said in my earlier post, the company I worked for also made wax seal "stamps" - not many mind you but there was the odd one. These were engraved by a parallel gravograph in order to get the detail right so, bearing in mind the available technology in the 1860's, I'm amazed that the were able to manage to get such detail.

I was looking at the catalogue for the 1851 exhibition and Thomas Martin was advertised there too and he claimed that he had engraved The Lord's Prayer on a seal of 1/2" in diameter.

We can only do that with laser engravers today!!

Allen

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Occupation Interests / Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« on: Monday 30 November 09 11:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Mog,

Thanks for your post.

I did try to attach 2 photos and downsized them according to the spec but I kept getting "page not found" error so had to give up. I thought perhaps I ws unable to attach since I had only just signed up which I did so that I could reply to Nick's post.

Is is quite a coincidence and I can only guess at its value. I worked for Rubber Stamp Manufacturer. who also made company seals, for some years. These had been in existence since the 1860's so, again, I can only guess that this display had been passed to the owner of the company after the London Exhibition of 1862. It was about to be thrown out when the company closed about 10 years ago.


Allen

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Occupation Interests / Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« on: Sunday 29 November 09 13:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Nick!!

Just came across your post today as I was doing some research on a display which I have had for some time containing 89 seal examples which was probably used for the International Exhibition of 1862

The central seal is quite large and is for the International Exhibition, London 1862 but on either side there are 2 seals which refer to Thomas Martin - Tornographer of Newton Abbot, Devon who has probably made this display and seals.

The seals are of varying sizes and shapes from about 1cm and up to about 6-7 cm and the detail on some of these is quite intricate.

I have tried to attach a picture here for you as this may be of interest to you without any luck but I would be happy to send this to you via email.

I woud be very interested to see if you have any information related to this item.

Kind regards,

Allen Thompson

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