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Hi Keith
Yes, that's my gg-grandmother Fanny Elizabeth Frazer who was housekeeper to Thomas Woodward.

I've got this fantastic family photograph with some Frazers in it:
The bride is Winifred Kate Frazer, daughter of Fanny Elizabeth Frazer and Edward John Hodges
She married her cousin, Charles Harold Frazer (known as Harold), son of Thomas Lovett Frazer
Luckily my grandfather (the little boy on the right) wrote down the names of most of the people on the photo
Those that may be interest to you (i.e. Woodward descendants) are:
the bride and groom (hopefully obvious which ones they are!)
the bride's mother, Fanny Elizabeth Hodges nee Frazer, sitting next to the bride (her husband Edward John Hodges is on the far left with the fabulous moustache)
Jane Kate Frazer, spinster, sister of Fanny Elizabeth, sitting behind the groom
two of the bride's siblings, Fanny Eliza Hodges, sitting next to the groom, and Gilbert Edward Hodges, behind the bride (his wife Frances Ellen is second from the left in the second row, and their two children are in the front row, Gilbert Randell Hodges and Frances Muriel Hodges)
There are two females in the photo who are unidentified, and the others are the family of Gilbert Edward Hodges's wife so are not blood relatives of the Frazers/Woodwards

I feel very grateful that both sides of my family hang on to amazing photos like this one - I know a lot of other people would have chucked it out years ago

You mentioned an Anne Woodward daughter of William - I have a feeling I was able to find a marriage for her as well as census records and children, so will update you when I've looked it up

Hello - only just seen this message after not looking at the forum for a few years!

I would be interested to know how we are related to each other. I am still unsure of the parents of my Elizabeth Pardoe. She married William Woodward in 1819. I am descended from their daughter Elizabeth Woodward, who married Henry William Frazer in 1852.

Also we always have to face the small chance that the man named on a birth/baptism certificate was not the real father of your ancestor. A quick roll in the hay with the neighbour, the dalliances with the milkman or temporary separation leading to a fling, or the wife seeing another man and the hubby being none the wiser. Not sure the rate of infidelity in our ancestors days, but only advances in DNA testing will give a more accurate reading.

I always wonder about my Essex family - every census the men of the family are listed on a boat somewhere, while the women are left at home. Who knows what they got up to while the men were away!

Oh yes the endless Johns, James', Williams, Georges and Elizabeth's, Sarah's, Mary's and Anne's. They chuck the odd Stephen or Erasmus in for good measure, or Thirza's.

I'm eternally grateful for having an Israel, Barnabas and Elijah amongst my ancestors!

My biggest frustration is burial records without ages. I've found likely burials for a few of my ancestors, but can't be sure because there's all that's recorded is their name. Even worse, some of the other records on that page are beautifully detailed - e.g. "Mary, wife of Edward Gibbons, blacksmith, age 48", but my possible relatives just have a name and nothing else.

My Dad slipped through the net - born in 1936, still very much alive and shows up on the 1939 register. His brother, born 1939 is redacted.
Mistakes do happen.

Yes, I've seen many, many more like this. In a lot of cases it's because the dates of birth column has become mis-aligned with the names column, so the wrong dates are assigned to the wrong people.