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Dublin / Re: Thomas Byrne - Connected to Donnellys of Dublin
« on: Sunday 04 April 10 13:19 BST (UK) »The phots would be great, I haven't been had a chance to get out there so if you get a chance It would be great to see them.
Gavin
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The phots would be great, I haven't been had a chance to get out there so if you get a chance It would be great to see them.
Gavin
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Dublin / Re: Thomas Byrne
« on: Thursday 01 April 10 18:54 BST (UK) »I've got a birth cert and marriage cert for Thomas Donnelly and I got a marraige cert for Michael Donnelly, that's where i got his fathers name from. I also found all the graves in Glasnevin. Michael's too.
The only thing I haven't got is a birth cert for Michael Donnelly.
According to the 1911 census which I think was recorded in April of that year, Michael was 40 and was orignially from Dublin city. I wrote to the GRO in Roscommon looking for his birth cert and gave an approx date for his birth, say between 1869 - 1872 and they couldn't find anything. After I got his marriage cert I wrote again with his fathers name and they still couldn't find anything. So my only hope is going to the National Library to see if I can find a baptism in one of the Churches in Dublin. Probably the Church of St Andrew on Westland Row where they got married.
I searched the following website and I couldn't find anything there either.
www.irishgeneaolgy.ie/index.html
Whenever I get the chance for a day off I'm going to go up to Dublin and have a good search in the National Library
Gavin
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Dublin / Re: Thomas Byrne
« on: Wednesday 31 March 10 17:26 BST (UK) »
Ye it might not be them but I'll tell you some of the names I have, maybe they might match up.
My Great Grandfather Thomas Donnelly was born 17.11.1892 (This is the grave you were looking at). He had brothers Michael, Peter & Anthony and sisters Margaret, Christina, mary, Ellen, Kate, Lily & lena. He was married to Ellen Rigney or she sometimes used Ellen Deegan. Thomas fought in the war of independence and recieved a medal for active duty. He was also a survivor of the Leinster Boat disaster I think in 1918.
His Fathers name was Michael Donnelly (Married to Margaret Farrell) and his fathers name was Thomas Donnelly.
His kids were Thomas, Michael and Emmet. Alma Frances, Sheila, May, June, Maura, Jodie and Antoinette. This Thomas is my grandfather.
All the these Donnellys are pretty much buried in Glasnevin. My Grandfather Thomas, his father Thomas and his father Michael. Still haven't found out much about Michael's father Thomas.
Anyway, hope that helps
Gavin Donnelly
My Great Grandfather Thomas Donnelly was born 17.11.1892 (This is the grave you were looking at). He had brothers Michael, Peter & Anthony and sisters Margaret, Christina, mary, Ellen, Kate, Lily & lena. He was married to Ellen Rigney or she sometimes used Ellen Deegan. Thomas fought in the war of independence and recieved a medal for active duty. He was also a survivor of the Leinster Boat disaster I think in 1918.
His Fathers name was Michael Donnelly (Married to Margaret Farrell) and his fathers name was Thomas Donnelly.
His kids were Thomas, Michael and Emmet. Alma Frances, Sheila, May, June, Maura, Jodie and Antoinette. This Thomas is my grandfather.
All the these Donnellys are pretty much buried in Glasnevin. My Grandfather Thomas, his father Thomas and his father Michael. Still haven't found out much about Michael's father Thomas.
Anyway, hope that helps
Gavin Donnelly
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Dublin / Re: Thomas Byrne
« on: Tuesday 30 March 10 23:39 BST (UK) »
Alicat84,
I was just going through all the Dublin threads and the Thomas Byrne name rings a bell. I was tracing my family tree and although I know I wrote Thomas Byrne's name down i can't find it in my files. I think he was the grave of my ancestors. The Donnelly's. I've looked up the grave details of my great grandfather Thomas Donnelly and it's exactly the same as the one you listed.
Is thomas Donnelly your ancestor, if he is maybe we could share some information.
Gavin Donnelly
I was just going through all the Dublin threads and the Thomas Byrne name rings a bell. I was tracing my family tree and although I know I wrote Thomas Byrne's name down i can't find it in my files. I think he was the grave of my ancestors. The Donnelly's. I've looked up the grave details of my great grandfather Thomas Donnelly and it's exactly the same as the one you listed.
Is thomas Donnelly your ancestor, if he is maybe we could share some information.
Gavin Donnelly
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Dublin / Re: Custom House Burning / John Wilson
« on: Monday 29 March 10 17:10 BST (UK) »
Greaghglass,
Is read your post a few days ago and for some reason Charles McCabe's name stood out. So I went through the files I have on Thomas Donnelly and his name came up. I only have a few details but here they are.
Thomas Donnelly was a section leader in the F Coy 2nd Battalion and he names Charles McCabe as his Comdt between 1st April 1919 and the 31st March 1920. Charles's address was 29 Ellesmere Avenue, North Circular Road.
The documents I have relate to Donnelly's application for pension and following a meeting with the pension board he was asked to submit more info in writing. He listed various activities and details and one of them is listed as follows.
'Charlie McCabe, Christopher Fitzsimons and myself took part in and got to seize a rifle in the Town Hall, Clontarf, the three of us were armed. I recieved a smith and wesson revolver to go on this from John Ward, that would have been about 1920'.
That's it i'm afraid. Hope it helps
Gavin
Is read your post a few days ago and for some reason Charles McCabe's name stood out. So I went through the files I have on Thomas Donnelly and his name came up. I only have a few details but here they are.
Thomas Donnelly was a section leader in the F Coy 2nd Battalion and he names Charles McCabe as his Comdt between 1st April 1919 and the 31st March 1920. Charles's address was 29 Ellesmere Avenue, North Circular Road.
The documents I have relate to Donnelly's application for pension and following a meeting with the pension board he was asked to submit more info in writing. He listed various activities and details and one of them is listed as follows.
'Charlie McCabe, Christopher Fitzsimons and myself took part in and got to seize a rifle in the Town Hall, Clontarf, the three of us were armed. I recieved a smith and wesson revolver to go on this from John Ward, that would have been about 1920'.
That's it i'm afraid. Hope it helps
Gavin
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Dublin / Re: Custom House Burning / John Wilson
« on: Monday 29 March 10 16:24 BST (UK) »
Ms. Smoketoomuch,
You say your grandfather got Teeling, O'Malley and Donnelly out. Just wondering if you know if the Donnelly you are referring to is Thomas Donnelly.
I've been researching my Great Grandfathers efforts during the war of independence and I got his pension application from the Department of Defence and some other documents from the Cathal Brugha barracks in Rathmines with a list of activities he was involved in like the LNWP Hotel and the Customs House. But what I haven't got is any actual stories passed down which are more interesting and more informative.
He was a section leader in F Coy 2nd Battalion. So is this Donnelly, Thomas Donnelly and do you have any other details about him. Thanks
You say your grandfather got Teeling, O'Malley and Donnelly out. Just wondering if you know if the Donnelly you are referring to is Thomas Donnelly.
I've been researching my Great Grandfathers efforts during the war of independence and I got his pension application from the Department of Defence and some other documents from the Cathal Brugha barracks in Rathmines with a list of activities he was involved in like the LNWP Hotel and the Customs House. But what I haven't got is any actual stories passed down which are more interesting and more informative.
He was a section leader in F Coy 2nd Battalion. So is this Donnelly, Thomas Donnelly and do you have any other details about him. Thanks
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Dublin / Re: Custom House Burning / John Wilson
« on: Wednesday 24 February 10 19:40 GMT (UK) »Seanod,
You can add Thomas Donnelly to that list aswell. I was on this thread a while back and I received written documentation from the Department of Defence highlighting the fact that he was part of the 2nd battalion initial attack on the CH.
unfortunately I don't have details of exactly what he did but you can be sure he was there when it all kicked off!
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Dublin / Re: Custom House Burning / John Wilson
« on: Sunday 29 November 09 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Gary, your absolutely right. The sense i get from these threads is that we should celebrate our history no matter what side you come from. I have to admit I've no idea what side I would've taken in the run up to the civil war and I've no doubt the volunteers on both sides thought long and hard about their decision.
I've always had a love for Irish History and it's only recently that I was given my great grandfathers medal for active duty during the war of independence that i hope to pass it on to my son. He went on to become a Free Stater but from what I gather from his military files, the Crisis in 1924 left a bad taste in the mouth and maybe left him with a sense of regret that he might have chosen the wrong side.
I've always had a love for Irish History and it's only recently that I was given my great grandfathers medal for active duty during the war of independence that i hope to pass it on to my son. He went on to become a Free Stater but from what I gather from his military files, the Crisis in 1924 left a bad taste in the mouth and maybe left him with a sense of regret that he might have chosen the wrong side.
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Dublin / Re: Custom House Burning / John Wilson
« on: Tuesday 24 November 09 19:46 GMT (UK) »'The Crisis' in 1924 came about because when the Free State government tried to demobolise some of the men a huge argument broke out over the men that were to go.
Following the signing of the treaty in 1922 some of the RIC men that fought against the volunteers went straight into the new Free State Army and worked alongside the volunteers that stayed loyal to Michael Collins. The problem in 1924 was that some of the men the Free State goverment wanted to demobolise were originally volunteers during the war of independence and some of the RIC men were to be kept on so to speak. This caused enormous trouble in the army and very nearly resulted in another war. The result of the crisis was that many volunteers from the war of independence resigned their post in the Free State Army in protest of how the demobilisation was handled.
I know my great grandfathers wife was very active for the Cumman na mban during the war of independence and I found out that when she died in 1937, the goverment wanted to give her an army funeral but Thomas Donnelly refused. So obviously the crisis left a bitter taste in his mouth and must have done for a lot of the volunteers that stayed loyal to Michael Collins following the sigining of the Treaty.
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