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Ok, so I will post what I have. His death registration in 1893 has his age at abt 74. Fathers name Wm, (i assume that is William). Mothers name Ellen Harper, (No idea where that name came from). I havent found any family docs with that name on it.
I have that 1841 sencus in my tree as that was the closest I ever found to him.
There are 2 Robert Calders arrived in Victoria, one in 1853 and one in 1854. The one in 1853 arrived on the ship, 'Hurricane', but the age is 5 yrs out. (I dont mind 1 or 2 years, but 5 gets a bit too much). The one in 1854 arrived on the, 'Lightning', has no age.
Robert married Martha Smith in 1858 in Ballarat Victoria. Marriage cert says Martha was a widow. Maiden name Martha McIntosh. widowed 22 Dec 1857. Marriage cert says she was born in London. Parents I have are Angus McIntosh and Elizabeth Keeble
Children doesnt help
Helen Martha 1859
Elizabeth Mary 1861
Martha Ann 1864
Robert James 1866

Yep, OK could be right. I will rewatch it again as I recorded it. If thats correct then I just added 2 and 2 in my head. Thx for the responses, didnt get any closer but it was a long shot. However it still doesnt answer how the marriage cert has Dundee and Ayrshire, but as said it maybe a mystery that will never be resolved.

I have attached the section of his marriage cert. Not great clarity but u can make out Dundee and Ayrshire fairly easily. Extreme right.
The closest I could find was a Robert Calder, father William, at the saw mill, mother Helen Findlay. Baptized  July 20,  1920 Aboyne, Aberdeen.

Hello there. I have what I thought was just confusion or a deliberate error in my tree. On my Great Grandfathers marriage cert he has his birth from Dundee, Ayrshire. From what I see they are in two different places. So I left it as an unanswered question. Today though, I watched an Australian WDYTYA with Delta Goodram and one of her relatives was said to have come from Dundee in Ayrshire. Straight away it pricked my interest. Is there a connection between the 2 places or was it a common mistake.
His name was Robert Calder and born around 1819.


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thx for the replies. Majm my friends mother is still living and lives with her daughter. Everything she, (we), are doing in regards to her family tree is done with her mums full consent. Her mum is supplying all the info we need to follow the tree backwards as it is quite complicated and has a few twists.
I know my friend and she wouldn't be looking if her mum wasn't interested as well. Just as a point of the complexity. My friends father was originally married to my friends grandmothers sister. He was in his 60's when he fathered my friend and died before she was born. Her mother and him were married for 15 yrs trying to have a baby. My friends mum was born in 24 and my friend in 63, so it is an unusual tree. But nothing we do is without mums consent. Unfortunately she never needed any documentation of her birth or marriages, apparently 3 of them. She got rid of all proof of the previous relationship after it ended. So my friend has no photos, letters or anything. She is loving filling in the gaps and finding out things she never knew. I have encouraged her to do as much as she can while her mum is still alive and able to answer questions and prevent brickwalls.
Can I also say thx to judb for all the info from her extract. It has helped with her mums and she will go back to BMD and see what can be found.