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Derbyshire / Re: Parents of Ann Collyer b. abt 1825 in Melbourne
« on: Monday 07 December 09 00:20 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jules,

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I am also following a Peat line that looks to have originated in Melbourne, Derby.  I am thinking the Mrs Warren mentioned in this newspaper article might have been Mrs Catherine Warren [nee Peat] or it would be an uncanny coincidence if not so   Is there anyone who can anyone confirm that Mrs Warren was Catherine [nee Peat] and also if she was the daughter of William and Ann Peat and grand-daughter of William and Catherine Peat.

Hannah Peat, who married James Collyer, was the daughter of William and Susannah Peat, according to the baptism of William, their son, in 1801. I'd be interested to know if they are part of your Peat family.

Mal   :)

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Derbyshire / Re: Parents of Ann Collyer b. abt 1825 in Melbourne
« on: Monday 30 November 09 21:18 GMT (UK)  »

Hi Tom!

Thanks for the info, it's very interesting. Does the Derby Mercury have online access to its archives? Many of my ancestors lived in Melbourne, so it would be great to be able to find out more about them.

Thanks again for taking the time to find the articles.

Mal   :)

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Derbyshire / Re: Parents of Ann Collyer b. abt 1825 in Melbourne
« on: Sunday 29 November 09 16:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi! Thanks for the replies

Hannah Collyer is listed in the Parish Council cemetery records as being aged 82 when she died in 1861. She was listed as being the wife of James Collyer and buried in plot 1005, she is listed as living in 'New York' a now demolished area in the town. She was buried on 3rd July 1861.

I have the death certificate for Hannah Collyer. She did indeed die in 1861, on 1st July, in Moira Street, New York, Melbourne, of "Old age". It states she was the wife of James Collyer, Cordwainer, and the informant was Hannah Chetwyn who was present at the death. I found Hannah Chetwyn in the 1861, aged 50. She lived with her family in Hastings Street, New York, Melbourne, but I can't find a connection other than being a friend and neighbour. I do wish that they had shown the maiden name of females on death certificates, as they do now, it would be so much help!

Ann Tivey buried 8th November 1897 aged 71 of Victoria Street Melbourne plot 1286 is perhaps a better bet.

William Tivey buried 13th May 1886 aged 65 plot 1281 was listed a a 'Merchant' the plot numbers are close together, and the numbering at Melbourne is not always sequential.

Ann Collyer Tivey died on 3 Nov 1897 and was buried in Pack Horse Road Cemetery along with her husband William. I visited there a few years ago and have a photograph of the headstone. William was a Machine Builder or Warp Machine Maker in all the census records, so not sure where 'Merchant' comes from.

To Gardener: I had already looked into the witnesses of Ann Collyer and William Tivey's marriage, but they didn't help with Ann as they were both from the Tivey family - Thomas Tivey, William's younger brother, and Sarah Grice nee Tivey, William's older half-sister. They were married in the Parish Church of Melbourne, but not sure if that's any help with where Ann herself was christened. Derbyshire Records Office didn't find anything in their research for me.

I've searched the IGI but there are no christenings or births for any of James and Hannah's children, and they may not even be Ann's parents! Unfortunately I didn't find anything on the website you sent me the link to, apart from the birth/baptism of William Collyer b.1801, and all his children. I'm not sure where I go from here.   :'(

Thanks again for your help!

Mal

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Derbyshire Lookup Requests / Re: Totley, Derbyshire - Baptism Records
« on: Friday 20 November 09 10:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to all who have replied so far. The information on Dore and Totley is very helpful. It will give me a starting point in my search for Harriet's baptism. Every little helps, as they say!

Thanks again!

Mal


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Derbyshire Lookup Requests / Re: Totley, Derbyshire - Baptism Records
« on: Wednesday 18 November 09 12:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi!

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If as suggested she was "from/born" Calver she could have been baptised at Baslow just down the road

Yes, I suppose it's possible Harriet was baptised in Baslow, or even Bakewell, since she was married there. Three censuses say she was born in Totley, one says Dore and another Sheffield. Her husband Alfred Crookes was born in Dore according to the censuses, but his mother came from Froggatt, she didn't marry his father John Goddard, and he was christened in Stoney Middleton. He and Harriet lived in Sheffield from the 1841 census onwards.

I'm trying to complete 7 generations on both sides of the family and need Harriet's parents to do this.  Any help would be appreciated.  :)

Regards,
Mal

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Derbyshire Lookup Requests / Totley, Derbyshire - Baptism Records
« on: Monday 16 November 09 22:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi!

I'm trying to find the parents of Harriet Baxby b. abt 1816 in, according to the censuses, Totley, Derbyshire. She married Alfred Crookes on 12 Aug 1833 in Bakewell Parish Church, and was said to be "Harriet Baxby of Carver". I believe Dore and Totley were both in the district of Dronfield at that time, but unfortunately I don't know which church she would have been christened or baptised in.

If it's possible to trace the baptism without knowing the church, can anyone help with a look-up at Derbyshire Records Office? I now live in Dorset and rarely get the chance to visit Derbyshire.

If more information is needed, please let me know.

Thanks!

Mal


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Derbyshire / Parents of Ann Collyer b. abt 1825 in Melbourne
« on: Saturday 14 November 09 17:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi! I'm trying to find the parents of Ann Collyer b. abt 1825 in Melbourne. She married William Tivey in Dec 1844 in Melbourne, and according to the certificate her father was James Collyer, shoemaker. I can only find one James Collyer in Melbourne in the 1841 census who was a shoemaker; he was married to Anna and had several children, but no Ann, who I haven't yet been able to trace in 1841.

In later censuses I can only find James and Hannah Collyer, not James and Anna, so I'm thinking that maybe Anna was a spelling error, and it should have been Hannah? However, that doesn't help me to prove that they are Ann's parents.

On Family Search I found the birth of William Collyer on 8 Jan 1801 in Melbourne, parents James Collyer and Hannah Peat. I'm wondering if they are the James and Hannah I found in the censuses and if they could also be the parents of Ann Collyer, though Hannah would have been about 47 when she had Ann. William was a shoemaker in 1841 and later.

I've been in touch with the Derbyshire Records Office but they couldn't find a baptism/christening record for Ann Collyer in the 1820s, only William Collyer in 1801.

I've now reached a brickwall and thought I might ask on these forums for any suggestions, or if someone knows anything about the Collyers of Melbourne.

Thank you!   :)

Mal

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